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BillM
02-08-2006, 08:35 AM
I just read this on another 4x4 site and thought it might clear up a few questions some may have about how legal/illegal beadlocks are for the street. Notice that it talks about a "Federal" regulation so this applies in ALL states:

This is the best "layman's terms" explanation of the whole debate I've seen so far.

As copied from Scott from Rockstomper.com:

There is a Federal standard that basically says that all roadgoing wheels have to be DOT stamped, but nothing preventing a manufacturer from DOT stamping a beadlock wheel. In fact, if you check out Champion Wheel's comments (on their site) you'll see that beadlocks are actually road legal, but most beadlock wheel manufacturers choose not to stamp their product DOT, thereby hiding from lawsuits behind a smokescreen of vague (and often misleading) language.

If you care to research the FMVSS on the subject, there's nothing about beadlocks that is in violation of DOT standards... but there is a requirement that all road wheels be DOT stamped, and a manufacturer stamping something DOT, makes them liable for it.

If you go so far as to research the FMVSS, you'll find that the very concept of "DOT approved" is misleading, as DOT does not approve anything. DOT writes standards, and specifies how to perform testing, but does not do testing, nor do they provide approval.

There are no inspectors that "come out and look it over" (Referring to a beadlock wheel being sold by a company). It's entirely on the manufacturer--if they want to accept the liability for it, they can stamp it; if they don't, they don't have to. There's no requirement that they stamp it in order to sell it, that's how so many beadlock manufacturers can sell so many wheels with "not for highway use" on them, and no DOT stamp. They're simply hiding from the liability.

Rim shells are stamped DOT prior to having a center installed. I have a couple here at the shop, 15x10, with full DOT markings, from the rimshell rolling house, with no center, no valve hole, no nothing... just the rim itself.

With that information in mind, knowing that it has to have other parts welded on in order to be useable as a wheel, knowing that it has to have a hole (or maybe two, if you're using the inflatable internal lock systems) drilled in it anyway, it's pretty well stretching things to say that it voids the DOT stamp to weld to it, to drill holes on it, or similar.

The only argument I've seen that holds any water is, if you cut it, that (arguably) could be construed as a substantial change to the wheel. It is, however, considered acceptable to cut two wheels apart to make one wider wheel out of the two larger pieces of each. Wheel shops do it all the time, without impacting the DOT stamp or legality.

Further, as I've been told by the Colorado State Patrol, if the wheel has a DOT stamp in it along with the other information as described by the DOT in their regulations, the State Patrol considers it to be road legal. All they need to see is that stamp. Unfortunately for convenience sake, that stamp is on the air-pressure side of the wheel, to keep it from looking ugly on the cosmetic surfaces, but it's usually there.[/b]

Derrickalda
02-08-2006, 09:52 AM
ive really wanted beadlocks, but working in virginia i know i'd get in trouble for it. considering i just got a ticket not long ago for having a flowmaster on my land rover (the muffler guy didn't tell me they were not 50 states legal, but its my fault for not researching it.)

all i can say is i just hope more and more yuppies will buy those fake beadlocks so us that want the real ones won't get caught....ha....uuuhhhh ignore that comment if your running fake beadlocks.....

NC_James
02-22-2006, 01:59 PM
bah hamanah bah.... lol... So what state are flowmasters illegal?? So I know to stay out of it and I am not running fake beadlocks will soon hopefully be running non fakes hahaha....

HotRodYJ
02-22-2006, 02:20 PM
I got real beadlocks WITH the DOT stamp 8)

NC_James
02-23-2006, 09:22 PM
I got real beadlocks WITH the DOT stamp 8)

Dont rub it in :brilsmurf:

BillM
02-23-2006, 10:05 PM
I got real beadlocks WITH the DOT stamp 8)

I got some of them too. Mine just has smaller shoes than yours... :(

NC_James
02-27-2006, 07:54 PM
I got real beadlocks WITH the DOT stamp 8)

I got some of them too. Mine just has smaller shoes than yours... :(

I am getting prices on some. lol

1-tonmudder
02-27-2006, 10:01 PM
I will have had mine for three years this July and have drove it to Tellico 3 times,windrock 3-4 times and plenty of street driving in between and have never had a problem with the law over my wheels,but there is always that first time.

HARDBODY630
02-27-2006, 11:19 PM
Even if you had beadlocks and they WERE NOT stamped...do you actually think a cop is going to see your truck rolling down the road with beadlocks and say hey...I wonder if those are stamped with DOT on them??? Seems kinda far fetched to me...

pplblazerdude
02-28-2006, 12:00 AM
Unless you get inspected in a state and have them on the rig at the time I think you will totally be fine. I mean when you are driving down the road when a cop would actually see you he wont be able to tell. Also if he knows what they are he prolly is into the sport and wont say anything.

1-tonmudder
02-28-2006, 12:24 AM
Yeah I agree that 90% of the law probably dont even know what they are,and you would probably have to do something pretty bad before they would get you for them.I dont think mine are to obivios going down the rode,but the ones Shawn is going to run might be.Tenn is very laxed on their motor vehicles and dont think they would try to enforce it.

pplblazerdude
02-28-2006, 12:46 AM
Yeah I agree that 90% of the law probably dont even know what they are,and you would probably have to do something pretty bad before they would get you for them.I dont think mine are to obivios going down the rode,but the ones Shawn is going to run might be.Tenn is very laxed on their motor vehicles and dont think they would try to enforce it. What ones is he going to run. I havent heard about this yet. I wont to know.

1-tonmudder
02-28-2006, 01:07 AM
Well,I might have let the cat out of the bag so to speak,but he showed me a set of OMF beadlocks that have the bright orange outter ring and said he was thinking of putting them on his EB he's building.

NC_James
02-28-2006, 01:54 PM
I talked to some state troopers here in NC and they said they dont really bother with them all that much So I think I will be good.

Country Boy
02-28-2006, 10:26 PM
I just ordered a set of the Rock City DIY weld on beadlocks for my project. Should be here any day now. 8) 8)

TiredIronGRB
02-28-2006, 10:40 PM
I'm anxious to see these, I need some for mine.

Gubni
02-28-2006, 11:01 PM
Even if you had beadlocks and they WERE NOT stamped...do you actually think a cop is going to see your truck rolling down the road with beadlocks and say hey...I wonder if those are stamped with DOT on them??? Seems kinda far fetched to me...

No, they just write you a ticket and you have to prove innocence. With traffice cops - guilty until proven innocent.

Gubni
02-28-2006, 11:04 PM
Yeah I agree that 90% of the law probably dont even know what they are,and you would probably have to do something pretty bad before they would get you for them.I dont think mine are to obivios going down the rode,but the ones Shawn is going to run might be.Tenn is very laxed on their motor vehicles and dont think they would try to enforce it. What ones is he going to run. I havent heard about this yet. I wont to know.

They are MRT beadlocks and will go on the gray Bronco. They rock rings are huge. My EB project will have stauns when and if that project gets past planning and parts collection.

pplblazerdude
02-28-2006, 11:07 PM
I just ordered a set of the Rock City DIY weld on beadlocks for my project. Should be here any day now. 8) 8) Has he shipped them yet? If not and its Rob out of Greenville I can bring them too you on March 10th. Im coming home for spring break so I can bring them to you for free.

Hilla-GO-Rilla
02-28-2006, 11:12 PM
all i can say is i just hope more and more yuppies will buy those fake beadlocks so us that want the real ones won't get caught....ha....uuuhhhh ignore that comment if your running fake beadlocks.....

:twisted: Hmmmmmmm
The fake beadlocks protect your valve stem from bad stuff :wink:

I think if you went to a rod run - where troopers are enforcing lift laws etc , then your looking at getting caught. But the biggie would be an accident with an investigation that could tilt the scales because you were wrong.......Risk management.

I think I'd run them if I had real ones....DERRICK!
:?

Country Boy
02-28-2006, 11:39 PM
I just ordered a set of the Rock City DIY weld on beadlocks for my project. Should be here any day now. 8) 8) Has he shipped them yet? If not and its Rob out of Greenville I can bring them too you on March 10th. Im coming home for spring break so I can bring them to you for free.
Thanks, they should be in the mail now. Possibly be here tomorrow. I should have asked so I could have saved on shipping. Appreciate the offer, though. 8)

pplblazerdude
03-01-2006, 12:11 AM
Anytime. If you get anything else from him I will more the gladdly bring it home if it will fit in my truck.

Rtaylor
04-26-2006, 12:15 PM
I just ordered a set of the Rock City DIY weld on beadlocks for my project. Should be here any day now. 8) 8)

The beadlocks that I run on my Bronco are Longfield do-it-yourself type beadlocks and I love them! Make sure that you get someone that knows what they are doing to weld them up for you and you will be happy.

My Allied wheels were originally 8" wide. With the beadlocks installed they are now about 9" where the tire mounts (tire mounts on outside of wheel now instead of on the inside of the rim). With my Baja Claws mounted on the wheels they run true and straight and required very little weights to balance them out.

Country Boy
04-26-2006, 05:19 PM
I have around 16 years of welding, I think I can handle that part. :wink:
Now after saying that, I will have 3,000,000 leaks in the welds. :shock:
All I need to do now is get the wheels blasted & I can start welding them.

Rtaylor
04-27-2006, 09:18 AM
You won't have any problems with the welding. They will make a world of difference in your ability to keep the tire on the rim when they are aired down. The only thing that they won't do for you is keep mud out of the inside bead.... :roll:

Danny Cabral
07-17-2006, 02:55 PM
What do you guys think of the Staun Internal Beadlocks? They lock both sides, save your tires if flat, faster air ups/downs (due to beadlock consuming space inside tire) and proven to be very durable off road.

http://www.eco4wd.com/Staun/BeadLock.pdf
http://www.staunproducts.com/beadlock.php

Country Boy
07-17-2006, 05:04 PM
What do you guys think of the Staun Internal Beadlocks? They lock both sides, save your tires if flat, faster air ups/downs (due to beadlock consuming space inside tire) and proven to be very durable off road.

http://www.eco4wd.com/Staun/BeadLock.pdf
http://www.staunproducts.com/beadlock.php
I saw a write-up in 4x4 rag that had a lot of good things to say about them, I have never personally seen them in use. To me,they look like they would hold up under some light to medium duty use, but they might hold better than they look.
my 2cents
anybody seen them in use?????

Dino1967
07-17-2006, 05:31 PM
havent seen them in use but they look sweet and durable

Bluegill
08-01-2006, 03:57 AM
Very nice reviews on the Stauns - but have you looked at the price on em? :shock:

99NCXJ
05-22-2007, 09:38 PM
i havent had any problems with the law down here. i had the xj inspected several mo. back and they didn't say a thing about them.

I run a diy kit that we make here.