SolarTJ's 2001 TJ build-up

[BillM]

Well I have never done this but I might as well start one. I have officially started working on putting some beef under the Jeep.

To start off I am going with 1-ton axles under this thing. The front is a D60HD low pinion. Found out last night that it has 35 spline inners and 30 spline outers.
http://www.4x4grace.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Axles_002.jpg
http://www.4x4grace.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Axles_016.jpg

Here it is all cleaned up and primed with the rotors and spindles removed.
http://www.4x4grace.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Axles_011.jpg

The Jury is still out on the rear axle as too what it is. Conflicting reports said it was a Dana 80, but after calling Autozone to check on some inner bearings, it seems to be either a D60 or D61. I will be taking the ring gear out and trying to find something on it to tell me. Anyone know what size the Ring is in a D61. I know the D60 is 9.75.

Anyway this thing has HUGE axle tubes and 30 spline shafts and what seems to be an LSD or Gov Loc. Kinda weird to me after seeing the shafts in the front.
http://www.4x4grace.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Axles_009.jpg
http://www.4x4grace.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Axles_004.jpg[/img]

Next up may be the replacement of the spindles themselves. The drivers side looks like a bearing seized up on it and really did a number. Passenger side looks like someone beat on it with a hammer.

Of course it will get all new joints, seals, bearings, rotors, calipers, and brakes. I will be changing the rear over to disc. Anybody got some junk Caddy rear calipers with the park brake built in????

More to come...

[Jeep07]

Cool. Axle is nice and clean. The jeep will be huge.

[HotRodYJ]

Hey Bill, did you know your front axle is upside down? :lol: You going for that lo-steer set-up? :wink:

[Gubni]

I file will take care of hammer marks. As for a new spindle PM 1-tonmudder. He recently got some Dana 50 hubs which should use the same spindles. Also you could take it to a machine shop and have it welded up and turned back down. Last one I had done was about $40.

I've found the best way to ID an axle is to google search the numbers on the ring gear.

Here's what I got for a rear disc conversion.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120092277270&rd=1,1

[BroncoMike]

Nice work Bill!

If ya need a hand just lemme know, I'll be glad to help any way I can!!

[Hokie_YJ]

If the shafts in the rear are 30-spline it's pretty much gotta be a 60 or 61. A 70 had 35-spline shafts, and 80's had like 37 or 40 spline shafts. :shock:

Seriously anytime you need a hand give me a call. You've got my number.

[Hilla-GO-Rilla]

Call Spencer..I know he had an issue with a D61 that was mistaken for a D61.

Anyway...thats going to be one mean ride :shock:

[1-tonmudder]

Their should be a BOM# (bill of materials) on the axle tube that will tell you exactly what the axle is and what it came from.

Right here is the link.
http://www2.dana.com/expert/wc.dll?cvsp~deabill~2~

[BillM]

Thanks for all the nice comments guys and the offers to help. You make me feel special....:D

Brian - I know you have heard of draggin frame? Well I am going to drag, drag link....;)

Shawn - thanks for the link on the brake setup. That doesn't look too bad. Also thanks for the reminder on Googling the # off the ring gear.

Ben - The only D70 that I have found to come with 35 spline shafts is the D70HD. The 70, 70U and one other only have 30 splines in them if I read Dana's site right.

I have found PART of the BOM on the axle tube. and tried looking it up on Dana with no luck. I did pull the carrier last night since I will need to clean the inside of the case and tubes out. Reason being that I found an entire pinion gear tooth laying in the case. Before someone junked the truck it came from, the must have broke the pinion because the one in it is pretty much new. I measured the gear and it is 9.75" so I know it isn't a 70.

I have this huge long # on the axle tubes on the rear also. Starts out like ML and is long as your arm. But they are not the same # on each side. I am guessing some kind of part #.

[Gubni]

I have a D70 non HD with 35 spline shafts. HD just gets bigger carrier bearings. It all depends on the years. Most newer D70's are in Dodge trucks and have 32 spline shafts.

[Derrickalda]

nice

[Dino1967]

looks good bill
when ya going to start

[HARDBODY630]

sweet. cant wait to see this thing done. :twisted:

[BillM]

You are right Shawn. I looked on Dana again and the 70HD had 35's and the 70 came with both. The 70 U had 32's or something like that. It don't matter either way now.


I FOUND OUT WHAT IT WAS. Shawn's advice on getting the numbers off the ring gear worked.

Spencer told me to look on the underside of the stump for a 61. It was not on there. BUT, I finally figured out the BOM #. 605420-3, it is a D60 with Trac-Loc from a 90-91.5 E250. I still can't figure what the front came from exactly but with the detail from the rear the date on the front tube of 11-29-90 seems to be a good indicator that these are from a 91 model if they came from the same vehicle.

I also finally got the spindle off the caliper mount. Took a little of the "fire" wrench and some hard hits but it dropped out.

Any suggestions on the best way to clean the inside of the housings out? I am thinging a little gas/diesel, a brush, and them the pressure washer to blow it all out. Then coat the thing with some diesel or diff fluid. I still have to get all my bearings, races, and seals to put back in it.

[Gubni]

That will work well to clean it out. I bet your axles are from a 90 or 91 4wd van. I have a large washer welded to the end of a 4 foot piece of rod so I can scrape out the tubes. I use it every time I pull the axle apart.

[BillM]

Well I added a couple of thing to the Jeep today. Cobra Special Edition 29LTD CB (all chrome), moved the antenna to the front, PSC Rocker Knockers and some 6" flares. I have had these thigns for a pretty good while and just now getting around to putting them on. I will have pics tomorrow.

[Dino1967]

kool cant wait for pictures

[Bluegill]

Sweet! :smokin:

You needed that PSC armor a few months ago..... :wink:

[NC_James]

Cant wait to see the pics!

[HotRodYJ]

Okay stop with the little bolt on stuff and break out the torchs already!! :lol:

[Jeep07]

Okay stop with the little bolt on stuff and break out the torchs already!! :lol:

He will miss to many rides this summer if he starts now :(

I'm still waiting on my PSC rocker guards.. Been almost 6 weeks now.

I tried to cancel the order about 3 weeks ago and just build my own, but I was told they are in powder coat and would be shipping in the next few days. Arg..

[BillM]

You are correct Wes. But I hope to get the axles going before too long. Here are the pics of the things I added.

http://www.4x4grace.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Jeep_002.jpg
http://www.4x4grace.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Jeep_003.jpg
http://i20.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/96/de/764a_1.JPG

[pplblazerdude]

Looks good man.

[Bluegill]

;-)

[Jazzman31]

:smokin: Dang good look to the jeep.

[Derrickalda]

according to the pictures these wee taken 4 years ago......you need to speed up the progress my friend....haha j/k

i like the spyder sliders....did you know that compnay is located in Denver...huh huh

[Dino1967]

kool

[Andy1]

Lookin great, Bill

[BillM]

according to the pictures these wee taken 4 years ago......you need to speed up the progress my friend....haha j/k

i like the spyder sliders....did you know that compnay is located in Denver...huh huh

Yeah the date is because of the batteries I had just replaced and didn't want to fool with changing.

I believe they are located just outside Denver in Sheridan. Well that is what my shipping label says anyway.

Thanks for all the compliments guys. Maybe one day, I will break out the torch and get to work on BIGGER things.

[Want2Wheel]

DOIT DOIT..

[Derrickalda]

bigger is good......BUT id be afraid at what you could do with big axles and lockers, because you're so good behind the wheel with what you have.

[BillM]

Well thank you Derrick. :blush:

I don't know if it is true or not.

[BillM]

Just ordered my Front Comp Stinger and Rear Stinger. Looks like I am going to need some trail corners also. May just go with the Comp Cut for when I move the rear axle back.

[pplblazerdude]

Just ordered my Front Comp Stinger and Rear Stinger. Looks like I am going to need some trail corners also. May just go with the Comp Cut for when I move the rear axle back. Dang this thing is going to be sexy. What size tire you plan on running?

[BillM]

38-40. Anybody want to be a sponsor and pay for some of this...LOL

[pplblazerdude]

38-40. Anybody want to be a sponsor and pay for some of this...LOL Nice nice.

[Jazzman31]

38-40. Anybody want to be a sponsor and pay for some of this...LOL

I will sponser some of it.... there is only two catches, I get to drive it, and not just once several times, and then my face is to be put on the side, kinda like Boss Hog in the Dukes Of Hazzard

[BillM]

LOL that is just too funny Justin. We could use that as the bullseye for the rocks going down the side to hit on. Closest one wins something. ;););)

[SamuraiGuyTN]

Yellow like a sunflower and just as tall. :lol: :lol:


I dunno why I came up with that analogy...just seemed to fit.

[Gubni]

LOL that is just too funny Justin. We could use that as the bullseye for the rocks going down the side to hit on. Closest one wins something. ;););)

That sounds cool. I want to try! :lol:

You know I can hook you up with some 38" tires. The cool thing is they measure the same as a 40" swamper and will fit on stock 7" wide 8 lug rims.

[BillM]

I may be yellin at ya. I got alot to sit down and figure out.

[fred]

Come on Bill finish this thing.........You aint done yet..........Hurry up.........How about now.........I MAY be able to get some 36x12.5 swampers you can run on your H1 rims