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dmoore714
04-23-2009, 09:40 AM
The church I was a member of back when I was in college had a special program called the "Greasy Hands Ministry". The basic idea was that the church would provide garage space (which they had out back) and church members who were good with tools would volunteer to help. If church members needed help with basic car repair, they could bring their vehicle to the church. The volunteers would tell them what to buy (parts, oil, belts, etc...) and then the ministry guys would do the repairs for them. It worked great at first. There was no money involved. It was strictly an in-church service and most of the repairs were simple.

It eventually went down hill, for a number of reasons. Some people weren't satisfied with the quality of the work. Some people were too satisfied, and took advantage of the service far too often. There wasn't a "hold harmless" agreement so the church was open to legal issues if something went wrong. And some people wanted "repairs" that weren't really basic or necessary (like installing a turbo). It ended up getting shut down after a few years.

I spoke to the pastor of my church here in North Carolina yesterday, about starting up a new version of this Greasy Hands ministry. I'm not sure which direction we're going to go with it. Might try to do the "you buy the parts and we'll install them" thing. OR we might turn it into a teaching program, where we invite people from the church to come out once a month to learn how to do stuff like change their own oil, change belts, install car audio, etc...

Either way, I think this will be a useful and helpful service. Getting car repair without paying for labor and/or learning how do to your own work is great for middle class and low income folks... especially in these tough economic times. It will also help me to get more involved in the church. I've been looking for an opportunity to do so for a while now, but Im just not interested in any of their current programs or ministries.

So... what do y'all think? Do you forsee any potential problems? Or have any suggestions? Im supposed to meet with the preacher and some of the men in the church about this next week. Would love to hear your feedback before then.

HANO
04-23-2009, 09:44 AM
Sounds like a great idea Dave. Especially in today's tough times. My only concern would be on a liability stand point, but I do think the teaching aspect of it, as in showing someone how to change their OWN oil, rotate tires etc. would be great idea.

Maybe instead have it where people can stop buy to get their tire pressure checked to save on fuel consumption and have all their fluids (oil, coolant, brake, windshield washing solution etc.) topped off? That would be inexpensive, quick (for both parties involved), and very little legal worry.

TiredIronGRB
04-23-2009, 10:18 AM
I do this but I have to say that it does get abused to the point where I've had to tell a couple that I just can't do it for them anymore.

dmoore714
04-23-2009, 11:49 AM
The legal aspect of this makes me nervous too. If we go that route (actually doing the work for people) I will write a "hold harmless" agreement and a "no warranties expressed or implied" statement for people to sign.

Personally, I'm leaning more towards the teaching potential of this. You know what they say about giving a man a fish vs teaching him how to fish. I would rather teach someone how to maintain their vehicle than do the maintenance for them.

Thanks for the input.

99NCXJ
04-23-2009, 11:53 AM
That is a great idea. I know at my church some of the elderly people would love to have someone to do things like that for them. I agree with the whole liablity thing though. We live in "sue happy" times and everyone seems to be looking for a way to get something more for nothing. I hate saying that, but thats just the world we live in.

I think the teaching of how to do things like that or even just being there to help them do it may keep you out of some potential trouble.

TiredIronGRB
04-23-2009, 02:32 PM
If the Lord leads you to do something he will protect and provide for you to do it. The key is to be sensitive enough to the Holy Spirit to know whether or not you are to be doing this or that.

Anytime you meet the need of a member of the family of God you will be blessed.

Matt 25:35-40
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' 37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' 40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

Our responsibility is to other believers first, then the lost.

Gal 6:10
Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.