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Jeep07
08-27-2006, 02:20 PM
OK so I figured i would start a build thread.
I need to get some leaf shims or wedges for my front axle. What is the best place to buy these? Steel only. George what degree did you mention?
Thanks all.
TiredIronGRB
08-27-2006, 02:34 PM
I would say about 4*
like these... (http://www.rubiconmfg.com/images/pages/img.asp?image=/images/RE1467.jpg)
Gubni
08-27-2006, 02:52 PM
I think I have an extra set for $20
pplblazerdude
08-27-2006, 03:06 PM
Here are some of those shims!!!! http://jkwoffroad.com/offroadproducts.php
Jeep07
08-29-2006, 01:00 AM
Thanks Clint, On there way.
Now time to educate me.
On the D60 I had what looks to be a 1350 Yoke. 1350 Flange type deal at the tcase?
Now a double cardan driveshaft seems to be in the near future. Can I buy one of these and have it modified to fit? Or should I just drive to bowman or fleet pride and say build one? and let them find the parts? I do need alot of slip which is what makes me think I can't buy one.
Thanks and I appreciate the help.
HotRodYJ
08-29-2006, 07:55 AM
I doubt you'll find a long slip you can use in the junkyard. It may be best to talk to Bowman and see what they can do for you.
Depending on how ambishious you are, you could change the way your front leafs are mounted and put the shackles in front (like a Jeep). That will eliminate the need for a long travel d-shaft. That's how I plan to do my X, when I get around to it, for that very reason.
Hokie_YJ
08-29-2006, 10:55 AM
I think that's a good idea Brian. My YJ had shackle reversal on it, but with my SOA I went back to the stock configuration. It seems to perform better offroad.
pplblazerdude
08-29-2006, 01:09 PM
Could also look into tom woods Or High angle both will cost you but both are very good choices on Driveshafts. Only thing I dislike about the shackle in the front is they seem vulnerable and like they could hender you. Just my 2 cents
r1ng3l78
08-29-2006, 01:16 PM
tom woods is the biggest con in driveshafts. but if you like the free bumper sticker and are willing to pay 4x what bowmans would probably charge make sure you pay extra for the warranty warranty. they told me that my lifetime warranty was only valid if i had paid some 50 buck extra fee when i ordered and hung up on me so i'm a little bitter. :x
Also The "gold seal" u-joints TW uses w/ the gurantee is because they are cheap China joints (thats how they can afford to replace them when they go out.). I was told this by another manufacturer, so I called TW and asked him, and he stated yes they were made in China and they were better in price than the US brand and that is important as they buy in bulk. He feels they are good enough in quality or comparable, but I won't use his stuff anymore.....
Jesse @ highangle is decent on price, but again higher than most local shops.......
Jeep07
08-29-2006, 09:06 PM
I talked to bowmans today. Super nice guy!. Once I get the shims on I'm gonna run it up to him and let him take care of it. It will be nice not having to worry about the front drive shaft anymore ;).
Jeep07
09-05-2006, 11:02 PM
OK, I did some fixes.
First here is what my prev rad fan looked like.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/radfanreplacement/images/dscn1373.jpg
So thanks to shawn hooking me up with one of his volvo fans the replacement looks like this.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/radfanreplacement/images/dscn1377.jpg
Here are the pics of my axle shim install
http://www.wesleycombs.com/axleshiminstall/images/dscn1348.jpg
http://www.wesleycombs.com/axleshiminstall/images/dscn1349.jpg
http://www.wesleycombs.com/axleshiminstall/images/dscn1351.jpg
http://www.wesleycombs.com/axleshiminstall/images/dscn1355.jpg
http://www.wesleycombs.com/axleshiminstall/images/dscn1356.jpg
Finished.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/axleshiminstall/images/dscn1370.jpg
http://www.wesleycombs.com/axleshiminstall/images/dscn1372.jpg
TiredIronGRB
09-05-2006, 11:12 PM
Much better and DANG that fan is perfect for that radiator :shock: :!:
Jeep07
09-05-2006, 11:34 PM
My welded yoke.
Last trip to harlan the tab broke off the side of my 1350 yoke. So I have ordered a new one but in the mean time I tried to make this one workable and good enough for a spare on the trail.
Broken Tab
http://www.wesleycombs.com/1350yoke/images/dscn1364.jpg
My rig up.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/1350yoke/images/dscn1368.jpg
http://www.wesleycombs.com/1350yoke/images/dscn1369.jpg
My new yoke should be here tommorow to replace this one.
TNRanger
09-06-2006, 12:43 AM
Man that's an ugly driveshaft in there :lol: :lol:
Both upgrades a definite improvement. I really hope that fixes your heat issue.
r1ng3l78
09-06-2006, 01:20 AM
Man that's an ugly driveshaft in there :lol: :lol:
Both upgrades a definite improvement. I really hope that fixes your heat issue.
ah ye olde square shaft. simple, timeless, a true classic. :lol: oh well, they're cheap, easy to build and work in a pinch right.
Jeep07
09-06-2006, 01:37 AM
I just took my other measurements.
31" extended.
26" normal
22" compressed (this is how far the current dshaft will compress)
My angle looks like 18*-20* normal height. From my visio diagrams and basic geometry my extended angle is about 28*-31*.
HotRodYJ
09-06-2006, 06:52 AM
Double check your castor angle. Make sure you still have a couple degrees positive or it'll be all over the road.
Gordon
09-06-2006, 09:34 AM
Lookin' good, Wes.
Jeep07
09-06-2006, 10:16 AM
Double check your castor angle.
How do I do this?
HotRodYJ
09-06-2006, 04:25 PM
Double check your castor angle.
How do I do this?
Use an angle finder and find a place that is perfectly perpendicular to the angle thru the ball joints. Usually the top of the Inner C or something like that maybe even the top balljoint itself will be flat enough to measure. Caster is the angle if you viewed the ball joints from the view point of looking at the wheel, but with the wheel, rotor, etc removed) draw a line thru the top ball joint and down thru the bottom balljoint. This imaginary line needs to lay such tat the upper balljoint is layed back toward the rear of the vehicle. This is positive castor. Typically you want at least 2 or 3 degrees, most Jeeps are 5-7. The point is you need at least some positive castor to make it track correctly and handle properly. Just ask someone who got positive and negative mixed up, how it drove. (Not mentioning any names but it was an honest mistake and no it wasn't me) They will tell you how difficult it was just to try and stay in one lane while driving.
Jeep07
09-06-2006, 10:53 PM
From my eyebaling it. It looks straight up and down through the ball joints. So i'm guessing 0 caster angle.
I drove it around tonight and she drove fine.
Also did good heat wise ;) now to pick a hot day and drive up some steep hills.
Thanks.
Wes
pplblazerdude
09-06-2006, 10:54 PM
Glad to hear this man.
Gordon
09-07-2006, 03:55 AM
:smokin:
Jeep07
09-08-2006, 02:51 PM
OK I talked to bowmans today and He thinks it will take $700 to build a front drive shaft. :shock: Thats a dual double cardan with 9" of slip.
He is a nice guy and told me to try and scavage the parts to save some money. He even recommended keeping the sq and going with the CV's on each end which would save about $200.
Expensive hobbies ;)
TiredIronGRB
09-08-2006, 03:21 PM
Try Fleetpride and I doubt you would need a dual DC shaft.
BJack
09-08-2006, 03:52 PM
Keep the square front shaft. The clanking is aggravating but they are cheap and work good.
pplblazerdude
09-08-2006, 05:31 PM
Keep the square front shaft. The clanking is aggravating but they are cheap and work good. I wouldnt pay 700 bucks for it. I would just keep what you got now.
Hokie_YJ
09-08-2006, 08:26 PM
I got my rear shaft at Fleetpride. It's a Single CV shaft, cost me $280 tax and all. Talk to William Buck, he's a nice guy and he'll fix you up.
Gubni
09-08-2006, 08:49 PM
You should bring it by my shop. We can probably make one of spare parts that I have and we can check the caster and yoke size also.
(I don't have 1350 parts, but plenty of 1310 and 1330)
Gubni
09-08-2006, 09:19 PM
You might consider these.
http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88359
Jeep07
09-10-2006, 01:01 AM
yup, they have a 1350. I will try one of these. If I could find one for the top it would be even better. Thanks for lettin me look at those cv joints shawn.
Wes
Jeep07
09-11-2006, 11:12 PM
Ordered a 1350 and a 1310 superflex for my front dshaft today. Supposed to give 10 more degrees of angle. i'm hoping thats enough.
http://www.4xshaft.com/Super-Flex/SF131_135_141.jpg
Jeep07
09-14-2006, 09:27 AM
OK I have installed my superflex joints. They have done the trick. ;)
Build Blog w/pics
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/Default.aspx
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Gordon
09-14-2006, 09:44 AM
Tha't great Wes, glad it worked out.
Jeep07
09-18-2006, 12:03 AM
Did some more tonight. Balljoints and U joints mostly.
Link to blog entryhttp://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/6/Default.aspx
Jeep07
10-03-2006, 12:46 AM
OK I think i might put some limiting straps on the front of the X to assure that my pinion angle wont get to steep when i'm going up a steep hill. So my question is where is the best place on the axle to attach these straps? I don't want to kill my flex just want it about 1/4"-1/2" shorter than the full flex. this way I kinda guarantee my yokes dont bind.
(I've got some other mods planned for 07 that will greatly reduce my pinion angle and relieve the need for tons of driveshaft slip)
For now i need to limit my flex a little so i can enjoy the trail without driving off the trail in 2wd.
I'm gonna start figuring out my materials etc tommorow.
Thumpszilla
10-03-2006, 01:49 AM
Looking good man Keep us posted. :wink:
HotRodYJ
10-03-2006, 08:18 AM
So my question is where is the best place on the axle to attach these straps?
Shock mounts
zukinut
10-06-2006, 12:03 AM
700 for a driveshaft, i spent 70 bucks on 2 10' sticks (inner and outer) 1/4 wall triangulated pto shaft and made 3 driveshafts. And where its designed to be a driveshaft (square tube is not) it doesnt squeak or rattle or anything.
You can pick the pto shaft up at tractor supply or any other farm equipment store.
HTH.
Jeep07
10-09-2006, 11:05 PM
OK did some mockup on my hydro assist. I'm thinking I will just attach the ram to the axle and then to the bottom hookup on the knuckle where the tie rod attaches seems like the ram will be pretty straight hat way and it won't interfear with the axle etc.
Link to the progress on my blog.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/9/Default.aspx
If anybody has any suggestions I'd love to hear them.
Now just to figure out how to Tapp the box. ;)
pplblazerdude
10-09-2006, 11:31 PM
I wouldnt do it like that. I would be worried that it would put way to much stress on that bolt for one and also put alot of stress on that knuckle. I mean you may never break it but still I dont think I would go that route. Also thats a good distance to go with hydro lines. How the way I see most people do it.
Im going to provide a few links to some other ideas that I think will work better.
http://www.trail-gear.com/hydro-steering-inst.html
Im like this method the best. This also shouldnt be to hard on your rig. Im not sure what crane covers are made of so you may not be able to weld to them not sure But I like this idea most of all. If this doesnt help any I will try to explain myself better.
1-tonmudder
10-09-2006, 11:41 PM
Here is what I think I am going to use.Might not work with your Crane cover.
http://diy4x.com/images/rammount.JPG
pplblazerdude
10-09-2006, 11:44 PM
Here is what I think I am going to use.Might not work with your Crane cover.
http://diy4x.com/images/rammount.JPG He makes real good stuff. I like that idea also. I didnt think about that but im 99% sure that it will not work on a crane cover.
Jeep07
10-09-2006, 11:56 PM
I just hate to weld the diff cover. Does putting stress on it affect the seal? I was just thinking that all the pushing back and forth might affect it. (maybe not though)
HotRodYJ
10-10-2006, 09:24 AM
I just hate to weld the diff cover. Does putting stress on it affect the seal? I was just thinking that all the pushing back and forth might affect it. (maybe not though)
I think the same way. I'd rather weld a mount to the axle tube, or use a bolt on like Steve has shown. For the other end, most people so attach it to the drag link instead of to the nuckle, BUT think of it this way, the bolt at the knuckle will still see the same amout of stress. The exta power is just tranmitted thru the tie rod instead with the typical mount. If I ever do mine, I'll attach to the tie rod and make a mount off the axle tube for the other end.
Is that a Surplus Center cylinder? Does it look pretty good?
Jeep07
10-10-2006, 09:31 AM
Yup it is from surplus center.. It looks great to me. Seemed to be nice quality but I dont have alot to base that on. ;)
I though the same thing about the pin seeing the same force and when you see a ram setup on a buggy its pushing against the knuckles directly. I'll continue to contemplate the decision while I try to find steering box stuff. Now I've just gotta find nissan stearing gear rebuilt instructions and a kit.
Thanks
Jeep07
10-12-2006, 06:38 PM
Myself and TNRanger will be working on the Xterra Hydro assist tonight if anybody wants to stop by. I live in Mt Carmel in the 1st subdv on your right on hammond Ave. House in the bottom culdesac with a white nissan PU in the bottom driveway.
<--- EDIT
l8r.
Jeep07
10-13-2006, 04:00 AM
OK The box is tapped and reinstalled... Tommorow the cyclinder gets installed.. I hate to say it but the only place I can attach it is to the front diff cover :(... Oh well atleast its super thick...This way the push/pull is distributed between the 2 bolts evenly.
Pics of progress on my blog.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/11/Default.aspx
L8r..
Want2Wheel
10-13-2006, 11:14 AM
Why not make a bracket that will go around the cover to hold it? Something like a bridge.
Jeep07
10-13-2006, 11:21 AM
The Diff cover is a big thick crane cover and there isn't a flat surface where the bolts are. I would do that if it was an option but I just dont think it will work.
Hokie_YJ
10-13-2006, 01:51 PM
Looks good Wes.
Jeep07
10-13-2006, 04:17 PM
I could use a little help on the X tonight if anybody has nothing to do. I need to fab the mounts for the ram and install it plus bleed the brakes and the steering system plus regrease the front hubs.
360 6622 if you can come to Mt Carmel this evening.
Thanks
Hokie_YJ
10-13-2006, 07:03 PM
How late will you be working? I'm going to eat, and I don't know when I'll be back.
Jeep07
10-13-2006, 08:31 PM
still working. be here all night with the way things are going.. darn 3/4 drll bit went dull on me :(
gonna go buy another i guess. cooking dinner right now.
Hokie_YJ
10-13-2006, 11:00 PM
Wes, sorry I ddn't make it by. I went to eat with the family, and I just got home about 20 minutes ago. Are you gonna be working on it tomorrow, I may be able to swing by. I've gotta work some more on my darn motor mounts. :x But if you need a hand I'll make it a point to swing by.
Jeep07
10-14-2006, 04:40 AM
Dont worry about it.. TNRanger stopped by and helped. Then he fail asleep in the X. haha. James works hard so he needed a break. I got all the mounts fabbed and welded up. The ram is installed and I just got done bleeding the system.. I still haven't bled my breaks, atleast not to my liking but I'm hoping tommorow morning that will be done. Pics of the Hydro assist completed will be posted tommorow. (I left my CF card reader at work.)
L8r.
Hokie_YJ
10-14-2006, 11:35 AM
Can't wait to see it in action!
Gubni
10-14-2006, 05:33 PM
If you don't like the diff cover ideal here's another bridge.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/215212/fullsize/dsc01279.jpg
Jeep07
10-14-2006, 09:26 PM
The Hydro is done and was used on bumpas cove today.
Link to the blog entry with pics of it mounted.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/12/Default.aspx
If your thinking of Hydro then Do It.. awesome mod and not really that hard.
Hokie_YJ
10-14-2006, 09:42 PM
That's awesome Wes! I've soooo got to do that sometime soon.
EngineNine
10-14-2006, 10:24 PM
Any reason why you didn't end for end the ram and go off the passenger side axle tube?
Jeep07
10-15-2006, 01:29 PM
Good question. I tried the ram in about every position possible and i think i remember being worried about the ram actually hitting the diff cover if i was at full extension while turning to the drivers side knuckle. Atleast the crane diff cover gave me a good solid location to weld to.
EngineNine
10-15-2006, 02:52 PM
That diff cover does look beefy. I bet it would mash your toe if you dropped it!!
Jeep07
01-03-2007, 11:29 PM
Welp time for an update. I took the leafs out tonight and started getting ready for my link setup.
So now its time to think before I weld.
Check here for my ideas.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/19/Default.aspx
I'm pretty much thinking radius arm-y link(i don't know if thats what its called but thats what I will call it until I'm corrected) or 3link setup. I have 2 pics of the y radius arms real quick in photoshop.
If anybody has any ideas on link setups let me know.
HotRodYJ
01-04-2007, 08:23 AM
I like the Y-links for a front suspension. What are you planning to use for heims? I'm thinking some beefy 1x1.25 heims for the frame end of the links, then 3/4 x 3/4 or 3/4 x 5/8 everywhere else. Ansd use some beefy material for the arm itself.
You actually can fit a triangulated 4 link in front by using parrallel upper links and reverse triangulated lowers. But I think a trac bar and Y links are the best bet for a front suspension. My opinion.
So why are you taking the leafs out? You mention a crack on the front crossmember. Is that just a design flaw or are you chnaging becuase of that? Just remember how much more stress will be on the two radius arm mounts when you link it compared to the leaf mounts. I'm thinking ultra-beefy is necessary here.
Jeep07
01-04-2007, 12:56 PM
Lets See. I bought hiems from poison spyder customs that are 3/4-5/8 to use upper and lower. The tubbing is 1.25ID DOM .25 Wall that I got from shawn. I thought about a Johnny joint up top but haven't decided yet. Still trying to do the brain work. ;)
TNRanger did this one, which is similar to what I'm thinking.
http://home.naxs.com/dogman/isenberg/frontend2.jpg
http://home.naxs.com/dogman/saycheese.jpg
Jeep07
01-04-2007, 01:02 PM
So why are you taking the leafs out? You mention a crack on the front crossmember. Is that just a design flaw or are you chnaging becuase of that? Just remember how much more stress will be on the two radius arm mounts when you link it compared to the leaf mounts. I'm thinking ultra-beefy is necessary here.
The last time at harlan the entire front right side of the crossmember bent after a weld broke in the rock garden. So the lift on the passenger side of the truck is gone because the leaf can collapse up against the frame. So I was gonna have to cut it all out and start over so I figured I would link instead of sticking with the leafs. Also moving the axle forward a little which will help pinion angle and I wont have the problem with the driveshaft needing to have so much slip due to the reverse shackles.
Video that has the weld breaking on me in the rock garden.
4x4Grace06MGWeb.wmv
Dino1967
01-04-2007, 08:06 PM
thats gonna be kool cant wait to see it finished
the more you all build the more ideas i get so everyone keep the builds coming :wink:
Bluegill
01-05-2007, 03:56 AM
thats gonna be kool cant wait to see it finished
the more you all build the more ideas i get so everyone keep the builds coming :wink:
x2 :wink:
Jeep07
01-06-2007, 11:16 PM
I cut the shock mounts off and started to prep for the links.
Tonight I got started by taking some 6"x3/8" plate and cutting it into 2.5"x6" pieces on my 4x6 bandsaw. I then took the plates and tacked them together and drilled 2 holes 1"Sq from the corners diagonal to each other. I only had a 1/2" drill bit so I have to buy a 5/8" bit tommorow so I can finish the holes for my hiem joints.
Next I decided to cut the leaf perches and shock brakets off the D60. This isn't as easy as it would seem. My plasma cutter is broken right now so I used the torch. After cutting the stuff I started grinding the stuff I couldn't cut off with the torch, which is horribly slow.
Pics on my blog...
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/21/Default.aspx
Dino1967
01-06-2007, 11:26 PM
nice progress :wink:
Thumpszilla
01-07-2007, 02:33 AM
Keep it up man!
Gubni
01-07-2007, 09:17 AM
On your upper frame mounts I like the ideal of a johnny joint. If you hit something hard the ther is no shock absorbing material and you are more likely to break something. With a johnny joint you have the poly bushing which can absorb some of the impact. I have nothing to base this on, just seems like a better choice to me.
Gordon
01-07-2007, 09:27 AM
Lookin' good, Wes.
Jeep07
01-07-2007, 10:37 PM
Today I worked a little. I got the tabs finished and tacked into place on one side. I also got the axle cleaned. I then took a broom stick and attached it to the hiem joint and layed it across the axle. Length looks to be about 52"-53" but I haven't got the front axle centered and lined up just where I want it.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/23/Default.aspx
I'm not sure about the angles etc but it looks fine to me. Any suggestions appreciated.
BillM
01-08-2007, 09:54 AM
Nice job Wes
Gubni
01-08-2007, 10:21 AM
Get an angle finder at Lowes. You need at least 3* of back caster (pinion pointed down) to make it drivable on the road. You need to measure it at the knuckles.
Jeep07
01-08-2007, 10:57 AM
Get an angle finder at Lowes. You need at least 3* of back caster (pinion pointed down) to make it drivable on the road. You need to measure it at the knuckles.
Yup I plan on doing that, with the other setup I had pretty much 0* of caster which made it a little odd on the road.
The good thing about a y-link is i can adjust the caster with the upper link length. And the pinion angle should say consistent as the axle goes and up down unlike the reverse shackle setup.
thanks
Jeep07
01-08-2007, 11:50 PM
More progress.
Tacked in rear brackets., once im confortable I will weld them in then box the back for strength.
Started thinking of design for front brackets but i think i'm just gonna buy some. TNRanger pointed me to these
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/assets/images/newflatbottom1.JPG
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/assets/images/flatbottomlinksa.jpg
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/24/Default.aspx
Bluegill
01-09-2007, 02:48 AM
Those look nice Wes!
BillM
01-09-2007, 10:46 AM
Wes, are those bracket designs yours, or pre made? If they are pre maid can you send me a link to them?
Thanks buddy.
Jeep07
01-09-2007, 11:16 AM
http://ballisticfabrication.3dcartstores.com/Link-brackets_c_24-1.html
they have tons of good stuff. gonna make my job alot easer. I'm also thinking about the drag link bracket etc. I've got to do some mockup tonight to make sure I can clear the links when i turn before I proceed.
BillM
01-09-2007, 12:20 PM
That is some sweet stuff. Thank you Wes
HotRodYJ
01-09-2007, 01:40 PM
Good looking stuff and the prices look pretty good also. Nice find.
Hokie_YJ
01-09-2007, 03:44 PM
I bought my rod ends and tube adapters for my traction bar from Ballistic Fab. They do have nice stuff, and good prices.
Jeep07
01-14-2007, 12:26 AM
Redid upper link mounts in the crossmember.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/25/Default.aspx
This will allow me to actually install the links without rubbing the tires when i turn. That might be handy on the trail :wink:
Jeep07
01-30-2007, 12:27 AM
I made some progress. I have more pics on my camera phone from tonight. This is what I got done sunday.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/28/Default.aspx
I have to finish the Y's, get my spacers for the hiem joints ready, do some brake line work, Track bar + Brackets and shock mounts.
NC_James
01-30-2007, 12:30 AM
Looking good!
TiredIronGRB
01-30-2007, 07:46 AM
Much, much better :wink:
HotRodYJ
01-30-2007, 08:12 AM
Looks good, I like those brackets. Makes life alot easier I'm sure than spending hours cutting and grinding to make them yourself. I like the adjustable coil bucket.
Gubni
01-30-2007, 08:18 AM
Wow that awesome.
Hokie_YJ
01-30-2007, 07:07 PM
Looking great Wes! :smokin: I can't wait to see it on the trail again, it's gonna perform so much better now. You're becoming quite the "Maestro" with a welding torch! :lol:
Dino1967
01-30-2007, 08:27 PM
:smokin: :smokin: nice
Jeep07
02-03-2007, 10:08 PM
I did some more work today. The X is holding its own weight tonight. I still have to build the track bar + Mounts and install my new chevy master cylinder and rerun the front lines + figure out some shock tabs.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/29/Default.aspx
Derrickalda
02-04-2007, 01:30 AM
bring it to Moab
Bluegill
02-04-2007, 02:12 AM
Looking good Wes!
pplblazerdude
02-04-2007, 09:46 AM
Are those springs a high anuff spring rate? I was just wondering cause it looks like you do not have much room for compression in the top on the springs. I know they are progressive but I thought you would still have more room then that.
Gordon
02-04-2007, 09:47 AM
Looking great, Wes.
Dino1967
02-04-2007, 10:26 AM
the way things are going you need to open a shop :!:
great job
BillM
02-04-2007, 02:21 PM
Way to go Wes. Doing a heck of a job.
Jeep07
02-04-2007, 03:43 PM
Are those springs a high anuff spring rate? I was just wondering cause it looks like you do not have much room for compression in the top on the springs. I know they are progressive but I thought you would still have more room then that.
they are close. they are 5.5" EB springs abd for an EB the compressed height is supposed to be 18.25" and these are at 18" even. so pretty close.
bring it to moab
I plan on it. my sister is moving to colorado springs so I will have 2 siblings to visit out there.
pplblazerdude
02-04-2007, 06:18 PM
Are those springs a high anuff spring rate? I was just wondering cause it looks like you do not have much room for compression in the top on the springs. I know they are progressive but I thought you would still have more room then that.
they are close. they are 5.5" EB springs abd for an EB the compressed height is supposed to be 18.25" and these are at 18" even. so pretty close.
bring it to moab
I plan on it. my sister is moving to colorado springs so I will have 2 siblings to visit out there. Nice. I was just checking in.
Jeep07
02-12-2007, 12:12 AM
ok the 3 link is done. I just have some brake work todo. Gonna try and get the fittings tommorow and finish up tommorow night.
pics if you want to see.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/EntryID/31/Default.aspx
BillM
02-12-2007, 08:54 AM
Looking good Wes.
Jazzman31
02-12-2007, 09:17 AM
Looks great, maybe one day you can wheel it instead of working on it. Then you can work on the Rubi. LOL
HotRodYJ
02-12-2007, 09:19 AM
Looking good. A grinder will clean up those torched edges :lol:
Rtaylor
02-12-2007, 09:47 AM
Looks like you are making some great progress. I can't wait to see this thing on the trails. I do have a question about the shock mounts that I'm not sure that I saw correctly in the photos. Are the upper shock mounts simply welded 90 degrees to the shock hoop without any triangulation? If so, won't that be a weak link? Those things absorb a tremendous amount of abuse when wheeling.
Robert
Jeep07
02-12-2007, 10:03 AM
They are a little more that 90*, but yes right now I have no gussets installed. I thought about adding some gussets (your the 2nd to mention it).
I was curious about how much abuse they will take since the shock will give before the mount. Unless the shift between extension to compression and vise versa, lets the pressure build up. (I dont have any experience in this area)
Before I had little flimsy shock tabs mounted the same way. (Not as long) but they where 1/2 as thick. I hope to test a little this week before I do anymore work.
Thanks for the suggestions and compliments, This has been a eye opening project.
Hotrod I agree I should clean them up I was just tired of listening to the grinder.
Thumpszilla
02-12-2007, 12:10 PM
Looking Great man!!
Mountainman
02-12-2007, 03:19 PM
Just observing: Will the shocks be the limiting factor in your up travel?
Can't wait to see it in action again.
Jeep07
02-12-2007, 03:28 PM
Thats what I have to test. I can build some longer bump stops that go inside the spring but I need to flex it out a little to know for sure. I hope to hit the RTI ramp at georges sometime soon and start looking to see what i have to change.
Your jeep is no joke on the trail. Got any pics posted up anywhere?
Mountainman
02-12-2007, 03:55 PM
Unfortunately I don't, I need to use a camera more. Give me a shout whenever you go to test it out.
Mountainman
02-12-2007, 04:35 PM
There are a few pictures of my Jeep here:
http://www.4x4grace.com/photos/thumbnails.php?album=156&page=1
Jeep07
03-03-2007, 09:19 PM
http://lh5.google.com/image/lucentglow/Reod0O9KlkI/AAAAAAAAAm4/JKEaMPGaTMg/s288/P1010010.JPG
HotRodYJ
03-03-2007, 09:22 PM
http://lh5.google.com/image/lucentglow/Reod0O9KlkI/AAAAAAAAAm4/JKEaMPGaTMg/s288/P1010010.JPG
Did I miss something?
Jeep07
03-03-2007, 09:25 PM
Check the avatar ;)
Plans have changed.
New pics next week I think.
Gordon
03-03-2007, 09:36 PM
WWWWWhhhhhaaaaatttttsssss UP????? :shock:
Jeep07
03-03-2007, 09:45 PM
new DD. (in the pic) mildly building the rubi for some trail riding.
I came to a realization that there should be a balance between wrenching and wheeling and I spent way to much time wrenching (learned tons though, so well worth it). I also realized that rock crawling the hardest things on the trail didn't appeal to me. I wanted to scale back some and have a rig that is geared towards trail riding (95% of what we do anyway) and not boulder crawling. The Rubi is the perfect base for that.
So the X is in CO now where it can crawl on boulders.
I'm thinking the Rubi will look a little different in a week or two so i will be itching for a bays run or something.
I must say I really like my new DD though.
Monstero
03-03-2007, 11:27 PM
Traded the X for a AMG...hmmmm :-k
Gordon
03-04-2007, 09:50 AM
Wes, I think that's great! I guess I'm prejudice, 'cause that's right where I'm at, too. Although I haven't put near the work in mine as you did the X, learning & doing is actually a lot of fun & rewarding.
Tell us a bit about the AMG.
Jeep07
03-04-2007, 11:20 AM
1998 C43 AMG.
115k with regular maintenance.
306HP
0-60 in 5.8
1/4 mile in 14.4
Plus its got 4 doors and can seat up to 5 which is great for work since I always have to ask one of the other guys to drive if more than 2 are going some where.
Pretty much loaded up inside.
The lord has blessed me on the deal.
I was kinda hoping to trade for a buggy but then this deal came along and made perfect sense. I really didn't want to get rid of the jeep and buy a tow rig + trailer and this helped accomplish that.
Gubni
03-04-2007, 12:44 PM
Get a 6" long arm kit and you'll go anywhere you want.
TiredIronGRB
03-04-2007, 03:56 PM
Good move Wes, it's much better to ride than to wrench all the time.
"wrench a little, ride alot"
Bluegill
03-04-2007, 10:00 PM
Good move Wes, it's much better to ride than to wrench all the time.
"wrench a little, ride alot"
x2 :!:
Besides, you already had a rig that makes even highly modified TJ owners drool :wink:
Hokie_YJ
03-05-2007, 07:44 PM
Sheesh the thing you miss when you leave town for the weekend. :lol:
Seriously though Wes I think you made a wise decision. I liked the X a lot, but like you said it's no fun if it's all work and no play.
Plastic
03-05-2007, 11:30 PM
I want a ride in the AMG, those things are beasts!
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