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Andy's01
08-17-2007, 06:15 PM
Been busy for the last few weeks working on this thing. I have the axles under the jeep and for now I am down to the shocks, steering and brakes. My TC wont be ready for 3-4 weeks and the DS's after that and it will be done. Here are a couple of pics to update you on my progress.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2840.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2842.jpg
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http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2871.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2846.jpg
Want2Wheel
08-17-2007, 06:39 PM
Are those welds on the front axle tubes strong enough to hold the pressure? I am not being picky. That thing is mean looking. You have done a great job.
Gordon
08-17-2007, 07:11 PM
:smokin:
Andy's01
08-17-2007, 07:22 PM
Time will tell about the welds. I have been a welder for over 20 years but I have had a failure from time to time. How did you even see the welds on the front axle in that pic. I cant even see them. Now the rear axle is only tacked up in these pics. I have gone back and fully weld all the joints since.
Bluegill
08-17-2007, 07:48 PM
:smokin: Mega sweet bro! Can't wait to see it in action at Harlan! :twisted:
Rob, I have seen alot of Andy's welding handiwork - put it this way; if I couldn't weld it myself (or get Pitch to), I would want Andy to weld it. Definitely a pro.
Jeepguy16
08-17-2007, 10:22 PM
lookin good
TiredIronGRB
08-17-2007, 10:40 PM
Andy you are out of control...that thing is SICK :!:
Beef up the cage and throw the windshield away :shock:
BillM
08-17-2007, 11:59 PM
Looking sweet Andy.
BroncoMike
08-18-2007, 12:17 AM
DAD JIM!!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Want2Wheel
08-18-2007, 08:13 AM
Sorry, I did not mean to step on anyones toes. It was the welds on the rear. In the picture it looks as though they are just tacked. I was not trying to put your awesome work down. If you read further you would have seen that I said that it was mean. It looks great. Again, Sorry for speaking up.
BillM
08-18-2007, 01:05 PM
Rob you are correct that they are only tacked. Those pics are before he finish welded them.
Hokie_YJ
08-18-2007, 11:11 PM
:headbang: :mrgreen:
Looking sick man.
How do you like that BTF truss? I've got one sitting in the corner of my bedroom just waiting for me to build my 4-link. Also if you don't mind me asking how much did the rear frame section run ya? I may have to look into one of those when I'm ready to do mine, though mine would be for a YJ.
BillM
08-19-2007, 02:12 PM
Already looked at it Ben. 499.95 for the back half. BUT, it only shows on BTF's site for the TJ. I thought about the same thing down the road.
Jeep07
08-19-2007, 07:20 PM
Awesome job andy. Look forward to seeing it in harlan.
Andy's01
08-20-2007, 10:11 AM
Sorry, I did not mean to step on anyones toes. It was the welds on the rear. In the picture it looks as though they are just tacked. I was not trying to put your awesome work down. If you read further you would have seen that I said that it was mean. It looks great. Again, Sorry for speaking up.
Its all good Bro.
I pretty much knew it was the rear that was only tacked up that you were talking about.
The BTF backhalf kit went on like a glove. It was as simple as pie. Of course, I did sit there with the cutter for about two hours before I finally made myself make the first cut. LOL
Andy's01
08-22-2007, 08:17 PM
Got the rear coilovers mounted up last night. The springs are way too heavy so I sent them back today and got much lighter ones. I am going to get started on the fronts tonight. I was hoping to get it on all fours this week but now it is looking like that wont happen. I decided after much deliberating and thought to go full hydro. I only needed a few things to go full hydro and they should be here on Friday. I will take pics once I get it on all fours. After that the only thing left will be running brake lines, mounting the TC and ordering new drive shafts. I should be done in pleanty of time for the Fall Crawl.
BillM
08-22-2007, 09:53 PM
Sounds good Andy. I cannot wait to get a first hand look at this thing in less than a week. ;)
Hadfield4WD
08-22-2007, 11:00 PM
Very nice looking. I've got to wheel with you guys.
Jeep07
08-22-2007, 11:17 PM
The BTF backhalf kit went on like a glove. It was as simple as pie. Of course, I did sit there with the cutter for about two hours before I finally made myself make the first cut. LOL
So was the BTF backhalf just to clear the coilovers?
Andy's01
08-23-2007, 09:21 AM
The BTF backhalf kit went on like a glove. It was as simple as pie. Of course, I did sit there with the cutter for about two hours before I finally made myself make the first cut. LOL
So was the BTF backhalf just to clear the coilovers?
Yes, there is not other benefit to doing a backhalf. The coilovers will not clear a factory frame without some cutting anyway so I thought why not just bump up the cool factor a little. :lol:
Andy's01
08-23-2007, 09:23 AM
Thanks for the comments. This has definatly been a long difficult build as I have done 100% by my self to this point. I got all the factory steering components off and the frame cleaned up last night. I will work on the Trackbar mounts tonight and then make sure the front is centered before mounting the front Coilovers. With a little luck and a big delivery from UPS tomorrow, it could be on all fours by the end of the weekend.
Andy's01
08-27-2007, 10:27 AM
Here is an update from this weekends progress. I got the jeep back on all fours. I still have to get another set of springs for the front as I used them on the rear. I also still have tons to do but this was a big hurdle. It should be all down hill from here. The only other major work is the hydro steering, notching the frame behind the front coilovers and front shock hoop tie bar. After that I just have to fully weld it out, install brake lines, bumpstops, TC and drive shafts and I am done. Yeah, I know that is still a lot to do but I have about 3 more weeks before my TC comes in so I have plenty of time to finish up the other stuff. I am going to take a week off from my build to put the RE 5.5 lift under Laurie's jeep. Gotta keep momma happy.
Here are some pics of the jeep, my family and the guys that came to help from the IAJ site (Tony, Morgan and John).
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2944.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2943.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2934.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2935.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2933.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2928.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2927.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2926.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_2924.jpg
Bluegill
08-28-2007, 02:05 AM
Looking good Andy! ;-) It will be awesome seeing it in person at Harlan!
Love the pics with your daughters btw, the one with both of them also shows how big those 42" tires are. :wink:
I bet Laurie is drooling over Scarlet "growing up" too. :lol:
Andy's01
08-28-2007, 10:59 AM
Thanks!!!!
I am really looking forward to Harlan. I dont really see a problem with having mine ready but you never know.
Laurie is really excited about her build. I will have it done and we will be wheeling it by this Saturday.
Hokie_YJ
08-28-2007, 12:11 PM
That thing is so sick! :smokin: There's no way my leaf springs and puny little 37's will be able to hang with you and tony in Harlan. :laughing1:
Have you checked Summit for an overflow bottle. The have quite a few optins that aren't all that expensive.
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+4294924500+115+4294921541&NeXID=5
Andy's01
08-28-2007, 12:44 PM
Thanks,
I have looked at summit and they do have several economy bottles but none are recirculating. The ones that will allow the system to recirculate are much more expensive.
I dont think you will have any trouble keeping up with me....Tony on the other hand. LOL
BillM
09-04-2007, 10:35 AM
I got to see Andy's junk in person over the weekend....It is a total piece of junk....LOL :wink:
Wait till you guys get to see it in person. Quality build for sure.
Andy's01
09-04-2007, 11:08 AM
Thanks Bill.
I had the help of a few friends this weekend and Bill. We did get all of my old TC shifter linkage removed. All of the old ARB wiring removed and we got the tiebar made for the front coilover shock hoops. That was pretty much it for mine this weekend as we devoted most of our time to Laurie's jeep.
I actually got the rear brakes complely finished up last nite. I am going to have to order some adapter fittings today to finish up the front brakes.
I got the frame notched out for the front coilover clearance.
I still have to get the correct upper springs on the front
Still have to move the front trackbar mount on the frame back about 1'' so the tierod will clear when turned to the passenger side during full stuff.
Still have to fullly install the Hydro steering system
Still have to go back and seal up the axles and fill with fluid.
Still waiting on the Stak transfer
Still wainting to get front and rear Drive shafts.
Sounds like a lot but if I had all the parts I could be done in a weekend.
BillM
09-04-2007, 11:14 AM
You might want to get started finish welding everything.... :shock: That is a good bit of it too do.
Andy's01
09-08-2007, 02:19 AM
Got some stuff finished up tonight.
I got the brakes all snugged up and the system filled with fluid. I purged most of the air out myself but I still need to bleed them off.
I got the track bar mount moved and everything fully welded in.
I got the orbital valve mounted on the frame and the steering linkage fabbed up as well.
This weekend I plan on finishing up the steering, fully welding out everything, filling up the diffs, mounting the front shocks (springs came in) and if I have time push it outside for a bath. LOL
If everything goes as planned, I will be done and waiting on the TC. I need to finish up my loose ends as I have to get back to work on Laurie's next week.
BillM
09-08-2007, 12:13 PM
Sounds like you are rocking and rolling mang. Where is Stak? We will drive up there and hold em hostage till they give you that case.
I spoke with Tony at STaK the other day.... Mine is suppose to ship out this coming week..... it's been a few months of waiting, but I believe it'll be worth it.... Hopefully yours will be in the "stack" they just completed..
J.R.
Andy's01
09-08-2007, 07:20 PM
Man I sure hope it is in this bunch. You said you have been waiting months. I just spoke to a guy at stack this week and he said they were filling all orders withing 5-6 weeks. I will be so upset if I have to wait another 3-4 weeks. When I ordered it I was told it would take 5-6 weeks to get and this coming week is #5.
I have gotten the steering all but done today. I will try to post up some new pics tonight.
I put my order in at Carolina RockShop around June 8th.
So I have been waiting!
p...a....t...i...e...n....t....l....y
Just barely :!:
Andy's01
09-09-2007, 11:43 AM
Did not get pics last night as I got very upset with myself and just said the heck with the darn thing. I made a change from Hydro assist to full hydro steering and so I got to send back all the parts that I could not use. Well, I "by accident", sent back all my low pressure line stuff that I still need, so now I have to re-order that crap. I am also missing the high pressure fitting that comes out of the back of the new pump. Other than that I am done with the steering. I am going to spend most of today tying up loose ends (welding everything out, sealing up rear shafts, filling up the diffs, mounting the coilover resivors and mount the cooler for the hyrdo system). That may sound like a lot but if I can get on it and stay on it, I will be done by this afternoon.
So, you guys check back late this evening and I will have pics of the "almost finished" product.
Jeep07
09-09-2007, 11:59 AM
That may sound like a lot but if I can get on it and stay on it, I will be done by this afternoon.
you make me feel lazy :(
Andy's01
09-09-2007, 11:55 PM
I did not get completly finished this weekend due to the missing hydro-steer stuff. Other than that and some minor things like checking all the bolts and building a skid to protect the steering cylinder I am as far as I can go until the TC arrived. Here are a few pics and a link to my album.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/Andys%20One%20Ton%20build/100_3015.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/Andys%20One%20Ton%20build/100_3010.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/Andys%20One%20Ton%20build/100_3000.jpg
Andys One Ton build pictures by AndyLyles - Photobucket
Want2Wheel
09-10-2007, 12:12 AM
Nice
BillM
09-10-2007, 08:38 AM
Looking good Andy. Should be interesting when you go to drive that thing for the first time with no rear track bar...;) Nice and clean on the backside too man.
Andy's01
09-10-2007, 09:51 AM
REAR TRACKBAR???? What the heck is that? :grin:
Andy's01
09-19-2007, 10:41 AM
Just about done! The guy that build my axles is coming over tonight to redo the front seals. They both leak!!!! I got my steering all mounted up and filled with fluid last night. I also got my massive skid to protect the steering cylinder welded onto the axle. That thing is heavy. It is made from 3/8'' thick boiler plate. I think I could hit a semi head on and that thing wont move. Here are a couple of pics of the skid.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_3027.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_3026.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_3025.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_3024.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_3022.jpg
Want2Wheel
09-19-2007, 11:35 AM
very clean.
TiredIronGRB
09-19-2007, 12:03 PM
I would box that trackbar mount, looks a little flimsy.
Andy's01
09-19-2007, 12:09 PM
Now that you pointed that out George...I meant to do that but forgot. Thanks for the observation.
TiredIronGRB
09-19-2007, 12:52 PM
It might not need it but I have seen a couple of them break.
SamuraiGuyTN
09-19-2007, 04:17 PM
I would box it a little and the run a triangle gusset on one side. Not that it would need it.
TiredIronGRB
09-19-2007, 04:24 PM
I would just box the side facing away from the trackbar
Andy's01
09-19-2007, 04:49 PM
That wont be a problem as I have tons of material and gussets left laying all over the place. For some reason Poision Spyder sent me 4 of their signature gussets in the mail the other day at no charge. Go figure.
Andy's01
09-26-2007, 10:16 AM
Have not updated in a while so here goes.
The beast is just about done. The only thing left is replaceing a front driver side seal, & bleeding out the brake system.
According to StaK, my case will ship on Monday and it will be here on either Wed. or Thrus. EOR said to bring my jeep with me and we will stay as long as it takes on Thurs night to get it fully mounted up (including all bracing). Then I have to be at the Drive Shaft shop Friday morning to have the beast fitted with new shafts. So if everything goes as planned it will be done by a week from this Friday and on the trails doing some shakedown that weekend.
I have the front end torn apart but I will get some pics posted up once I get it back on all fours and out side.
BillM
09-26-2007, 10:26 AM
I thought he fixed those seals once already?
HotRodYJ
09-26-2007, 11:04 AM
I don't claim to be any kind of expert on this, but I have set-up a handfull of gears myself. Looks to me like the pattern on the gears is a little too close to the outside (OD) of the teeth. Needs a little more shim on the pinion to move the pattern more toward the center on the drive side of the tooth.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/One%20Ton%20Build/100_3026.jpg
Andy's01
09-27-2007, 10:17 AM
I will ask my gear guy about it again. I said something to him about it and he said that he sets them all up to hit a little more to the outside.
Got the call from StaK yesterday. My case is shipping today and that will put it getting here early next week.
I looked at the seals last night. As I did not have a seal driver to use when he came over to replace them the other day.....the drivers side seal was cocked just a little. According to Jimmy at EOR...if it is not perfectly seated in the tube...it will leak. I already have the new seal installed and it is flush.
Hadfield4WD
09-27-2007, 11:49 AM
I assume this is a full hydro with a single ram is that correct? If so why not get the double ram so force will be the same in both directions? Just curious.
Andy's01
09-27-2007, 12:06 PM
I assume this is a full hydro with a single ram is that correct? If so why not get the double ram so force will be the same in both directions? Just curious.
$$$$$$$$$. I did not have the extra cash to pop for the double end set up. I talked directly to PSC and they sized everything to fit my application. I have it completly finished and I can steer my 42's from lock to lock with one finger. Dont get me wrong...I wanted the double ram but just did not have the cash to pull it off.
I called my Gear guy and he is coming out to the house to double check the front tonight. I sent him a copy of the pic and he is telling me that by looking at that pic it is a little too far out but he still thinks that is just the way it looks in the pic. He is coming anyway to double check as it is better to be safe than sorry.
BillM
09-27-2007, 12:07 PM
Good deal Andy. Hurry up and get that pile done.
Andy's01
09-27-2007, 12:19 PM
Oh, not to worry friend. My junk will be finished in about a week from Today looks like. That gives me two weekends to work out the bugs before we leave to head your way.
Hadfield4WD
09-27-2007, 12:40 PM
I assume this is a full hydro with a single ram is that correct? If so why not get the double ram so force will be the same in both directions? Just curious.
$$$$$$$$$. I did not have the extra cash to pop for the double end set up. I talked directly to PSC and they sized everything to fit my application. I have it completly finished and I can steer my 42's from lock to lock with one finger. Dont get me wrong...I wanted the double ram but just did not have the cash to pull it off.
Cool thanks.
Andy's01
10-03-2007, 10:36 AM
Thank goodness!!!
The end is near. I got the front gears reset and new seals in and back together and all looks good. I have finished up everything (even my sound system) that I can. I have it loaded onto the trailer and I have to be at EOR this afternoon by 3pm. My TC came in yesterday and myself, Brent from Trailworks, Jimmy form EOR and Tony (admar) are going to install it tonight along with setting the ride height and charging the shocks. If I am lucky I will get Dave (Dave's driveshaft) to cut down my shafts tomorrow and then I am ready to make some shakedown runs. I have my camera and I will get some pics tonight, tomorrow and this weekend and I will post up when I can.
TiredIronGRB
10-03-2007, 10:37 AM
:grin:
BillM
10-03-2007, 10:45 AM
Sounds like a plan Andy. Git-r-done.
Andy's01
10-07-2007, 04:44 PM
Took the jeep out to Wooly's today for a shakedown run. Jeep performened awsomely!!!! Up until I broke the rear passenger side axle shaft. That D60 lasted me a whole 3 hrs. LOL
I also had some issues with the steering. It works fine on the pull side but on the push side is whines very badly. If anyone knows the prob with that let me know. I am guessing I still have air in the system but who knows.
Last but not least. I busted the radiatior. Looks like the shrowd broke sending a big chunk flying it the fan that in turn sent it into the radiator but I wont know for sure until I get it off. The only real other possibly is that the track bar slammed into the bottom of it busting the seal.
So, I need a set of D60 rear shafts and a radiator. If you have either or both let me know.
Here is a pic to sum up the performance.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/AndyLyles/Woolys%20Oct%207th%202007/Picture014.jpg
Here is the rest of the album
Woolys Oct 7th 2007 pictures by AndyLyles - Photobucket
Want2Wheel
10-07-2007, 05:27 PM
Nice flex.
Hadfield4WD
10-07-2007, 05:47 PM
I also had some issues with the steering. It works fine on the pull side but on the push side is whines very badly. If anyone knows the prob with that let me know. I am guessing I still have air in the system but who knows.
So, I need a set of D60 rear shafts and a radiator. If you have either or both let me know.
By push I assume you mean the ram extending. I would bleed the system again. Also are you running a cooler? Pushing/extending has more surface area and will require more force applied from the pump. This could be it as well. May just be the nature of hte single ended ram. I also know some people have had problems in the past with aftermarket pumps.
DC has great prices on Alloy Usa shafts. Cheap enough for me that my spares are alloy.
1-800-radiators. Good pricing and have some large core ones if that's what you need.
Andy's01
10-07-2007, 06:32 PM
Thanks for the info. This is a balanced system fromm PSC. All components are supposed to be matched to work together. I am going to call them tomorrow just to make sure. I do have one of those 12" line cooler thingys with all the fins coming off of it. I think they call them heat sink coolers. My money is on either air pocket or just getting too hot or both.
Hadfield4WD
10-07-2007, 07:24 PM
Thanks for the info. This is a balanced system fromm PSC. All components are supposed to be matched to work together. I am going to call them tomorrow just to make sure. I do have one of those 12" line cooler thingys with all the fins coming off of it. I think they call them heat sink coolers. My money is on either air pocket or just getting too hot or both.
Balanced or not if that is a standard ram (ei. there is no special valving) the principle of hydraulics works on presure and surface area. There is more surface area thus more force required for pushing.
Gordon
10-07-2007, 09:10 PM
Lookin great, Andy.
Hokie_YJ
10-07-2007, 09:53 PM
Are your shafts 30 spline? If so what are the lengths? I've got the stock ones from my 60 since I went 35 spline. They're something like 34", they came from a '76 F-250 D60. If you want them I'll let you have them for $50.
Andy's01
10-07-2007, 10:36 PM
Hokie, my axle takes 34.75'' shafts. If this is what you have I will take them and just bring them to Harlan. I already have a set to get me back up and running.
Andy's01
10-07-2007, 10:41 PM
I finally got time to get the rear torn down and I also inspected the steering system tonight. The res. was all but empty. I turned it all the way to the lock on the pull side and the res. was only about half full. I am sure I was pulling air into the system at that level. I have refilled it and cycled it about 20 times. I will continue this process all week and give it a try next weekend. I am still going to give PSC a call tomorrow and see what they think. Thanks for the info about this as I know diddly about hydraulics.
Bluegill
10-08-2007, 01:55 AM
DC has great prices on Alloy Usa shafts. Cheap enough for me that my spares are alloy.
Andy, Matt is referring to DC4WD (http://www.dc4wd.com). He is wonderful to deal with, lightning fast shipping too. Give him a call :wink:
Looking sweet btw - hard to believe it didn't flop in that first pic! :shock:
Hadfield4WD
10-08-2007, 08:52 AM
I finally got time to get the rear torn down and I also inspected the steering system tonight. The res. was all but empty. I turned it all the way to the lock on the pull side and the res. was only about half full. I am sure I was pulling air into the system at that level. I have refilled it and cycled it about 20 times. I will continue this process all week and give it a try next weekend. I am still going to give PSC a call tomorrow and see what they think. Thanks for the info about this as I know diddly about hydraulics.
No problem. Glad that's all it was. Are you runnign synthetic fluid?
DC has great prices on Alloy Usa shafts. Cheap enough for me that my spares are alloy.
Andy, Matt is referring to DC4WD (http://www.dc4wd.com). He is wonderful to deal with, lightning fast shipping too. Give him a call :wink:
Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes I think people know what's in my head and start a topic halfway through a thought.
BlueCrawler
10-08-2007, 09:19 AM
I had a problem with my power sterring sqeeling when the ram was fully extended and I ened up having to put a larger resivoir on. Check with it full extended and see what the fluid level looks like.
Andy's01
10-08-2007, 10:15 AM
I will check it tonight. Thanks.
Andy's01
10-08-2007, 10:17 AM
Someone on IAJ asked the question..."could the tube be tweeked or bent on that side causing the shaft to break?".
How do I check to see if that was the case?
Hadfield4WD
10-08-2007, 11:38 AM
Someone on IAJ asked the question..."could the tube be tweeked or bent on that side causing the shaft to break?".
How do I check to see if that was the case?
Start with a short straight edge. Like a 2' level and check that way. The other way is it you have it torn down run a stright pipe through the center like a jig and measure carefully in several places. If you have the diff cover off secure a long straight edge to the flat surface and measure carefully.
all this to say once it's bent it is very difficult if not impossible to get straight.
Gordon
10-08-2007, 12:14 PM
You could also do a quick check, with the axles out, using an angle finder on each axle mounting surface. Not as accurate as could be, but it would show a big difference. Both mounting surfaces should have the same angle to horizontal.
Andy's01
10-08-2007, 12:35 PM
Talked to a couple of different 4x4 builders and they pretty much agree that the housing would have to be bent pretty badly to cause and axle break on a Dana 60. Both of these guys believe that I just had a tweeked or weak shaft. I will do the measure test tonight just to make myself feel better however.
Jeep07
10-08-2007, 01:23 PM
I agree.
I know on toyota axles they recommend actually bolting them down to a table using threaded rod before welding trusses etc on because they will warp with the heat.
Warping them will kill your seals pretty fast so if your seals are good then it's probably not warped.
Andy's01
10-10-2007, 09:51 AM
I got the jeep pulled apart last night and found that the radiator had been smashed in from the bottom. The only thing under it is the track bar. I dont see how it could have come up and forward that hight to hit it but I guess stranger things have happened. I have the new radiator in along with "Laurie's electric fan, as my old shrowd was totally busted up and my clutch fan had two bent blades. I just have to wire it in and I am done with that. I also got the rear axle completly cleaned out and re-assembled except for the shafts. I am going to pick them up this afternoon. I should have everything except the steering done by tomorrow night. I am pretty sure that I have an air pocket (air lock) somewhere in the system but I am going to have to figure out how to get it out. I am going to unbolt the cooler and try to stand it up and see if that will do it. That cooler holds a lot of fluid and that may be where the air is located. The reason I think that there is an air pocket is that when cold the system pulls and pushes fluid into the res. as normal. After it runs and the fluid starts getting hot when you pull all the way to the lock position the fluid will burp out of the res. My threory is that as the fluid gets hot, it is causing the air to expand, pushing the fluid out of the res.
Hadfield4WD
10-10-2007, 10:08 AM
Here is a link to AGR's site. Go to the bottom of the page and they tell you how to bleed a system. This should help.
http://www.agrperformance.com/informationcenter.html#OurProcess
Andy's01
10-10-2007, 10:39 AM
Thanks,
According to that, mine does not have any air in it. I am still going to play around with it over the next couple of days just to make sure.
BlueCrawler
10-10-2007, 11:43 AM
This sounds just like what mine was doing. I really thought my reservour was large enough + the cooler to accomidate the ram and the pump but I was wrong. Mine would work fine for about 20 min or so the it would start to wine. I snuged up the pump pully and put a larer reservour on and it work fine from then on. :?:
Andy's01
10-11-2007, 10:52 AM
Well, I am not going to have time to run it again before the "Fall Crawl" so if it does it there then I will put a larger res. on it.
Jeep07
10-11-2007, 11:38 AM
Maybe add a filter like this? That will increase your overall capacity and should be easy to install with some barbed fittings plus it will filter any gunk out.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_25131_25131?cm_sp=Customer%20driven-_-Recently%20Viewed-_-Product%20Page
Andy's01
10-11-2007, 12:52 PM
Just got off the phone with PSC. They have a larger res. and they are overnighting it to me. I tell ya.....I am really impressed with their service.
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