4x4Grace FToy

[Jeep07]

As some of you know I ended up with Ftoy Chassis #510 from the raffle in Harlan this spring. After some contemplation I've decided to build this buggy as a 4x4Grace Ftoy. Grace has been a blessing to me and maybe this will help us spread the word.

I searched for a while and found an excellent donor rig that I picked up a month or so ago. I've been saving some money and ordering parts during this time as well. So here is a list of what I have.

Already have these items
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Chassis #510 Built by Apline
1982 Toyota as donor
Trail gear Hi Steer
Hunsaker Seats & 5 Point Harness
Marlin built L52HD Transmission
Marlin Doubler
Aussie Lockers F/R
BTF Shock Hoops
BTF Diff Armor
RockCityFab Tcase Mount
RockCityFab UBolt Flip Kits
IFS Stearing Conversion
Chevy Springs (Will be replaced by comp legal springs in phase 2 if the wheel base works out ok with them in phase 1)
22R motor
Hendrix Motor Mounts
15x10 wheels (once I determine backspacing works ok with the rig DIY beadlocks will be installed)
Longfield Super Set 30 splines front axles and birfields
Poly Performance rear Chromo's

Left to buy
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39"+ IROKS
1.5x6" Ram and Lines
Axle Gussets
Beadlock rings
Propane (Phase 2)
Competition Legal Springs(Phase 2)
Long travel Shocks
Rear Seat(phase 2)
1.75" Tubbing for Frame additions
1" Sq tubbing for floor board
1.5" Sq tubbing for floor board
Sheet metal/Alum/Plastic or something for the floor, side panels and roof

Pictures
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Donor Rig
http://lh3.google.com/lucentglow/Rqlh-hXHjoI/AAAAAAAAD_g/ZBm2FVXAGE4/s800/DSCF2026.JPG

Chassis 510
http://lh3.google.com/lucentglow/RqljVhXHjrI/AAAAAAAAD_4/9y1hmsr7ZsQ/s800/DSCF2289.JPG

This build will be starting in the next few weeks and hopefully progress at a steady pace.

Thanks.

[Want2Wheel]

That trailer looks familiar. It is coming good.

[Bluegill]

:smokin: That's awesome :!:

[Gordon]

Wes, that's terrific!

[HANO]

That's pretty cool Wes...!

[1-tonmudder]

Is the cage built to accomadate three seats.

[Hokie_YJ]

Very cool Wes. :smokin:


I've got a nice 20 gal. fuel cell if you need one. If you're interested let me know and we can work something out.

[BillM]

Where did you get that fuel cell Ben????

[Jeep07]

Is the cage built to accomadate three seats.

Yah the chassis has the rear support tube bent for a bench seat like this one.

http://lh5.google.com/lucentglow/Rqvb2hXHjuI/AAAAAAAAEAU/1FQ7z_kSYIA/s800/gen3.jpg

[Hokie_YJ]

Where did you get that fuel cell Ben????

I bought it off of a guy on Pirate before I decided that I was gonna run propane.

[BillM]

Propane??? Sweet.

[1-tonmudder]

Where can you get one and how much do they run??

[Jeep07]

Where can you get one and how much do they run??

Hendrix Motorsports in CA and Alpine Auto works in Memphis sell them.

The chassis are $900ish. However these are Ftoy chassis with a stampted serial # for competition. Its only about $300 worth or HREW if you have somebody that can bend it and put it together.

[1-tonmudder]

So I would be better off gettin g a Four Runner frame and having Bobby Eden build it from there.

[Dino1967]

So I would be better off getting a Four Runner frame and having Bobby Eden build it from there.that would be correct but if you wanted to compete in theformula toy veents you have to buy the hendrick chassis :cry:
cant wait to see the buggy on the trail wes and maybe a chance to drive it on a trail to see if i like that kind of wheeling (i know i will )have been thinking about linking the front on blue :wink: i keep changing my mind (lil says im like a women ) any way if ya need any help give me a call

[1-tonmudder]

I dont care about competing.I just want another one sitting around to look at. :smokin:

[Jeep07]

My Poly rears and 30 Spline Longs showed up today. :smokin: I'm still waiting on Motormounts from Hendrix though.

I got a price on new 39.5"x13x15 Irocs Bias today. $247/Tire + Shipping. Does that sound ok or do you all think i can find'm cheaper?

Also decided to do 5" lift springs but I've still got to figure out what length shackles to run.

I will be ordering the rest of the parts next week and start building very soon.

Anybody got recomendations on wheel spacers with 39" tires on a leaf sprung yota?

thanks.

[Bluegill]

Sounds like a pretty good deal on the Iroks. Cheapest advertised price I found on the net is $15/tire more. As long as the wheels are 3.75" (or less) backspacing, you probably won't need spacers. I'm using Toyota billet spacers on my FSJ until I get the J-10 rear axle under it (gotta move perches & shock mounts). Once the swap is done I won't need the spacers anymore. :wink:

[BJack]

I gave $1,000 even for my tires at Goforth in Sevierville. I bought them on a farm number as ag tires though.

[Hokie_YJ]

Where did you get your quote from? I ordered mine from DC. IIRC it was like $908 shipped for my 37's, so roughly $227 per tire. That was the cheapest I found. I picked mine up at the terminal though.

[Jeep07]

www.ntwonline.com gave me the quote. for the best price call them instead of using their website.

[Bluegill]

It wouldn't hurt to check with DC & see if he can beat NTW's price.

[BJack]

As bad as people talk about them I've always had good luck with 4wheel parts. You can call and haggle them down alot, it's almost like they wont let you off the phone without buying them and will even call you back if you refuse their offer.

[TiredIronGRB]

I usually find the lowest online price than print it out and take it to Ronnie at 4Wheels and he meets the price. That's just for the tires no mounting.

[Bluegill]

As bad as people talk about them I've always had good luck with 4wheel parts. You can call and haggle them down alot, it's almost like they wont let you off the phone without buying them and will even call you back if you refuse their offer.

I got an AWESOME deal on my TrXus from them ($592 for 5 - 33x12.50/15), but after 2 weeks & they hadn't shipped yet - I called them and sternly asked to cancel my order if they weren't going to send em. The tires shipped 5hrs later. :smokin: 4WP definitely has the most buying power of all off road vendors - they are a primary branch of TransAmerican Auto - who also happen to own a majority of tire manufacturers like ProComp, Mickey Thompson, Cooper, etc.

[Jeep07]

A little progress has been made.

Rob and Dad came over 8/20/07 and the toyota ended up like this after we were done.
http://lh5.google.com/lucentglow/RsuXr5eG3rI/AAAAAAAAEGw/3hheeGLnfvk/s800/img111.jpg

8/21/07 George and Ben showed up and we got it down to this
http://lh4.google.com/lucentglow/RsuXvpeG3uI/AAAAAAAAEHI/CIwfNXHJQnM/s800/img114.jpg

http://lh3.google.com/lucentglow/RsuXxZeG3vI/AAAAAAAAEHQ/SKSEUstXbms/s800/img115.jpg

This stuff will be gone tommorow
http://lh4.google.com/lucentglow/RsuXypeG3wI/AAAAAAAAEHY/B-Lif6OzmIE/s800/img116.jpg

Thanks for all the help.

[bizron]

I would've helped if it wasn't my 3 year anniversary lol.

You guys did a great job of stripping it down!

[TNRanger]

I bet Bec is happy or will be when the trailer is emptied :D :lol:

[BillM]

Nice xray pics of the work...;) Looks like you guys got it knocked out.

[BJack]

Can you run those chevy springs in comp or do they have to be stock length?

[Jeep07]

Can you run those chevy springs in comp or do they have to be stock length?

Nope, has to be stock length. I have some new springs for all 4 corners.

Yes Bill the Xray pics aren't great but as I told james, they captured the moment ;) I can't find the good camera so the phone had to do. I will say Kingsport Auto Recyclers does a good job and they are quick. If your in kingsport and need to junk some stuff I recommend them.

[Jeep07]

A little update. Mainly busy work but it has to be done. However a good photo at the end.

Before cleaning
http://lh4.google.com/lucentglow/RtYZg5eG4TI/AAAAAAAAENo/nd9XgEAuXjQ/s800/DSCF2447.JPG

Cleaning the frame out.
http://lh3.google.com/lucentglow/RtYZupeG4ZI/AAAAAAAAEOc/ViG6sfPX35g/s800/DSCF2453.JPG

Look at the junk that came out of the frame. Had about 2" of Alabama Mud in it.
http://lh4.google.com/lucentglow/RtYZz5eG4bI/AAAAAAAAEOs/WVuHIlbDLb8/s800/DSCF2455.JPG

Much cleaner but still not finished.
http://lh5.google.com/lucentglow/RtYamJeG4zI/AAAAAAAAERs/s9GsaTLHWDc/s800/DSCF2478.JPG

http://lh3.google.com/lucentglow/RtYaqpeG45I/AAAAAAAAESg/W_vvR3Rcgks/s800/DSCF2484.JPG

Motor out.
http://lh4.google.com/lucentglow/RtYa15eG47I/AAAAAAAAESs/bN_wsUkAhS0/s800/DSCF2485.JPG

http://lh3.google.com/lucentglow/RtYa6peG5BI/AAAAAAAAETc/Kc6ktiYsEjQ/s800/DSCF2491.JPG

And the teasers.
http://lh6.google.com/lucentglow/RtYbBZeG5JI/AAAAAAAAEUc/Vot6e6mlXww/s800/DSCF2499.JPG

http://lh4.google.com/lucentglow/RtYa_5eG5HI/AAAAAAAAEUM/y3oB64CNUUY/s800/DSCF2497.JPG

http://lh3.google.com/lucentglow/RtYa8peG5DI/AAAAAAAAETs/h9bX2oDF-mA/s800/DSCF2493.JPG


Just about 6 more months and it might be ready for a trail.

[TiredIronGRB]

Looking good, we need to have a welding party :idea:

[BroncoMike]

That's going to be sweet you lucky dawg!!!

[Bluegill]

Looking good, we need to have a welding party :idea:

I like them kind of parties! :wink:

Looking good Wes! :smokin:

[Kinetic]

So uhhh. is there any chance I can swing a ride in this thing when you finish it :P

Looks good so far. Cant wait to see what you can do with it.

[Want2Wheel]

It is missing something.













YOU!!!

[Jeep07]

Kinetic you sure can get a ride in it.

I'm trying to do some work on my trailer before the fall crawl. Then I get serious with the buggy.

I've already cut a few brackets but nothing serious yet.

[Jeep07]

Cut some brackets off the frame tonight. Nothing special.

http://lh4.google.com/lucentglow/Ru3Y8elRhoI/AAAAAAAAEds/R4sfaqiRThw/s800/DSCF2769.JPG

[MudHunter]

Awesome Wes....I love it!

Looking forward to the next update!

[Dino1967]

looks like ya been busy
very kool

[Jeep07]

A few updates can be found here..

http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/Default.aspx?BlogID=3

[bizron]

That frame looks great, keep up the good work!

[BroncoMike]

Nice work Wes!

You've got some mad skills man!!

[Marty G]

looks great :grin:

[bansil]

very cool build

[insane04]

get to work we need updates!!!

[Jeep07]

get to work we need updates!!!

OK I finally updated the build on my
website (http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/BlogID/3/Default.aspx)

Axle got built a little.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/blog/tabid/53/BlogID/3/Default.aspx

http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/DSCF4086%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG

http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/DSCF4155%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG

Expect more after christmas... I'm off until the 7th :)

[Gordon]

:smokin: :smokin:

[HotRodYJ]

Looking good Wes ! 8)

[Dino1967]

:smokin: 8) :!:

[Jeep07]

Took a few moments to test fit the Xmember...

http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/DSCF4195%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/DSCF4196%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/DSCF4197%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG

[BillM]

Looking really good Wes

[Jeep07]

Had about 20 minutes so I got the chassis sitting on top of the frame so I can start the floor etc tomorrow.

http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/DSCF4266%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG

[TNRanger]

I'm gonna try to come up this evening. We'll just have to see how I feel after work...

[Jeep07]

OK cool. I will be down there all day :)

[Jeep07]

I made some chassis mounts that allow me to remove the chassis from the frame while I'm building. Then I built the floor frames and started the frames for the seats.

Setup the notcher (These are handy.. I've been doing the Chop Saw notching 101 and this thing is much quicker)


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4274%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Made these from 1.75" HREW and some Box tubbing.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4275%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Welded them to the chassis so I could get rid of the 2x4's. Now the chassis just sits on top of the frame :)


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4278%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4280%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Starting the drivers side floor frame, I didn't make it removable. Just seemed like a lot of work for something I probably wouldn't use that much.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4283%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Drivers side floor welded to the frame and the seat sitting in place..


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4286%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG



Building the passenger side floor.. These take lots of clamps. Had to build a notch around the tcase.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4288%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4289%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


How it looked after today..


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4291%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Front view


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4294%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Rear Profile


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4295%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4297%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Seat frames I cut out of 1" angle. More on these tomorrow.



http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2026/DSCF4298%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG




Thats if for Day 1 of my push to get this thing built.


Goals for tomorrow


- Seats In


- Peddles


- Steering


Thanks for looking.

[TiredIronGRB]

Awesome progress :shock:

[DeannErica]

Looking good Wes!

[bizron]

Very nice! Keep up the great work!

[BillM]

Coming along nicely that is for sure.

[BroncoMike]

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[Jeep07]

Today I mounted the seats, peddles and steering. I look at other builds to get the design for the peddle bracket. Its really nice to sit in the drivers seat now and know what it gonna feel like to drive it :)

The day started slow working on brackets for the seats.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4299%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Then It picked up momentum when I got to the peddles and quickly fabbed up the brackets for it using my TD plasma.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4303%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4304%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Steering column added


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4316%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4317%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Full view


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4315%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Front



http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4319%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Seat bracket 1" angle and a 1" xmember. Not too pretty but it works. I'm guessing I will order some PRP seats later but these are cheap and will work for now.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4326%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Profile


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4327%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Built a hoop for the drive shaft.. Now I'm safe and protected :) It looks really crooked in this pic but It wasn't that bad. I tried to make sure I didn't cover up any of the bolts for the rear tcase.



http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4328%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Ground up view. Jungle gym.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4329%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


More of the seat bracket.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4331%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


Took after I finished cleaning up the garage tonight..


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4332%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4333%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


How she ended up after Day 2 of the push.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4322%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2027/DSCF4334%20%5B640x480%5D.JPG



So I accomplished my goals of seats, steering and peddles.


Tomorrow's list

- Dash bar
- Radiator support
- Winch plate
- Some of the firewall and the throttle.


Saturday I plan to hit the axles again and get them rebuilt using the new beef.





Thanks for looking.

[Dino1967]

:smokin: 8)
you gotta stop and eat sometime lol
great job

[bizron]

i'm impressed man...as always...great job! Think of me as i install mom's new stove tomorrow by myself lol

[Jeep07]

I mounted the radiator, built a winch plate and cut the dash bar. Then I had to quit to go get steel.. Got to the steel yard and they closed early today :(. So I wasted 2 hours..

Started the day off with the radiator and decided to run an electric fan so I could get the winch as far back as possible. I've seen several 22R's on pane running a small electric fan with no probs so I figured I would go that route. I took some 1" Sq tube and drilled some holes to match the brackets on the radiator then I notched them so they would slip down between the frame rails.. I set the radiator and tacked the new mounts in place. I plan on adding another support to these for front-back/side-side movement. I ended up welding and removing this thing about 3 times to get it where I wanted it.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_005.JPG


Next I started on the winch mount for the front. I took some 3/16" plate that was bent on the edges (looked alot like a standard winch plate but wider). I cut it down on the edges and notched it on one side to go around the support plate on the passenger side of the frame.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_002.JPG


After the plasma on the long straight cuts.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_003.JPG


Cut out and notched.. Gotta love plasma.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_004.JPG



Before the winch plate








http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_006.JPG


Winch plate tacked in..


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_007.JPG


Holes drilled for the winch and I also cut a channel out for the rope to go straight down so I can try to hook it to the front axle to cinch the front end down. Not sure if this will work but it took a few minutes and was worth a try. I also put holes in for the fair lead mount on the bottom.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_008.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_012.JPG


I cut the dash bar and welded 2 bolts to it that will support the factory steering column.



http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_009.JPG


What it looked like at the end of today.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_010.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Dec%2028/Ftoy_510_071228_011.JPG


I feel like I'm moving along at a good pace. My wife said it didn't look like I did anything today.... I guess once I do axles and tires it will look like a buggy.





Tomorrows List.


- Get Steel in the morn so I can work over the holiday


- Pickup rotors and calipers for the front axle



- Clean up knuckles and start to put the front axle back together.


- Break down the rear axle and weld some armor on it and see how my home maid disk brake brackets fit.


It's a big list but a buddy said he was coming up to help :)





Thanks for looking.

[amgraham]

Looking good man! I love the oldschool SR5 steering wheel in a buggy :grin: . That winch plate worked out well too... Are you going to run some kind of protection in front of the radiator in case of a winch malfunction or something? It's close enough to where it might be a factor.. I dunno.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how this one turns out.

[Dino1967]

nice
ive got a question why do you want to cinch down the front axle
have seen several rigs done that way just dont know why

[Jeepguy16]

looks awesome

[Jeep07]

nice
ive got a question why do you want to cinch down the front axle
have seen several rigs done that way just dont know why

To keep the front end from unloading on climbs. The waterfall at callalentee is a good example of when one needs it. And in competitions the stabler your rig the better and the winch allows you to control the suspension. I will have a smaller 3klbs winch for the rear axle.

[Jeep07]

Looking good man! I love the oldschool SR5 steering wheel in a buggy :grin: . That winch plate worked out well too... Are you going to run some kind of protection in front of the radiator in case of a winch malfunction or something? It's close enough to where it might be a factor.. I dunno.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how this one turns out.

The steering wheel will get replaced with a smaller one and a quick disconnect :). To hard to get in and out of the seat with that one.

I hadn't really thought about the winch messing up and damaging the radiator but I guess it could happen. I plan on running synthetic line which might help with that..

Thanks for the feedback. Keep'm coming.

[Adurbin]

Looking good, I think that winch cable needs to be respooled. :lol:

[Jeep07]

I'm behind on updates so here goes. Knuckles painted, Axles cleaned, Frame welded, Skid built

Very dirty Hub and knuckle. Almost 30 year old Alabama Gunk.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/CleaningAxles/Ftoy_510_080103_002.JPG


All cleaned up.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/CleaningAxles/Ftoy_510_080103_003.JPG


Installing flanges and dowels.


Before drilling


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/CleaningAxles/Ftoy_510_080103_004.JPG


Hammering the dowels in.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/CleaningAxles/Ftoy_510_080103_005.JPG



All Installed


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/CleaningAxles/Ftoy_510_080103_001.JPG



Taped off the knuckles and other parts to paint them


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/PaitingKnuckles/Ftoy_510_080103_003.JPG


Painted


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Got new rotors and IFS calipers for the front.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/PaitingKnuckles/Ftoy_510_080103_001.JPG


Back down to basics




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Turned the frame around so it will be easier to put the motor back in.


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On rotisserie for welding.


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Welded it up.


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Tracing out frame on some plate for the belly.


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1/4" plate for the belly setup for some plasma goodness.



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A little bit cut out.


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All cut out and a radius put on the corners to avoid sharp edges.


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Sitting back on the frame




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Cleaned up with flap disk


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Built these little deals from 1.75"x.120 hrew and some washers for 3/4" bolt and some 3/4" bolts and nuts. These are to keep the bolt heads recessed (Thanks for the idea east coast John)



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Cut some 1.75" holes in the skid and tacked the supports on.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/BuildingSkid2/Ftoy_510_080103_004.JPG


The skid hanger are now on the frame and I welded these onto the skid solid.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/BuildingSkid2/Ftoy_510_080103_005.JPG


Bottom of skid painted black.


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Bottom of frame painted before I take it off the rotisserie so I don't have to try to paint from underneath it.


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Started on rear axle


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Tomorrows finish axles and get them under the frame with the leaf springs.


Put the motor back in and the chassis back on then start building some supports for the chassis.


Hope to have it on its feet by Sunday so I can roll it around.

[SamuraiGuyTN]

:shock: Man your just moving right along. :notworthy: Looks really good....Keep it up. :thumbright:

[Want2Wheel]

How did you get the skid off? I thought that you were going to call me. That thing is better in person. If you have not touched it you need to get your hands dirty. I need some more on mine as well.

[Hadfield4WD]

That is awesome. Nice work. I don't understand the recessed bolt part. Can you post up detailed pics?

[Bluegill]

Wow Wes! :shock: Ya know, it's okay every now and then to take a break. :lol:

Very nice work man! ;-)

[Jeep07]

That is awesome. Nice work. I don't understand the recessed bolt part. Can you post up detailed pics?



First cut some holes in the skid that are distanced from the frame rails


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/BuildingSkid2/Ftoy_510_080104_002.JPG


I used some 2"x0.25 angle for the brackets that will weld onto the frame to hold the skid up and cut some holes in them


Then cut some tubing into 1" chunks and took a 3/4" washer and welded it to one end of the tubbing.


Then put the bolt through the washer with the head recessed in the tubbing


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/BuildingSkid2/Ftoy_510_080104_001.JPG


Then put the bolt through the angle and put a nut on the backside and tack the nut to the angle so installation doesn't require two wrenches


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/BuildingSkid2/Ftoy_510_080104_003.JPG


Here it is ready for instalation.



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Then I put them over the holes in the skid and tacked them to the topside of the skid.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2003%202008/BuildingSkid2/Ftoy_510_080103_004.JPG


After that we flipped the skid up onto the frame and lined everything up and I tacked the brackets to the frame. (loosten the bolts just a little so there is some slack so you can get them really good and tight when the rig is right side up so it wont rattle against the frame.


Then I took it back apart and welded everything solid.


Thats pretty much it.

[Jeep07]

How did you get the skid off? I thought that you were going to call me. That thing is better in person. If you have not touched it you need to get your hands dirty. I need some more on mine as well.

Dad stopped by right as I was thinking about taking it off so he helped me.

[Marty G]

looking great thanks for this info ive been trying to figure out how i was going to mount the skid plate on mine this will be easy now

[Hadfield4WD]

OK I get it. That is a great idea. Thanks.

[Dino1967]

very kool :!:

[Andy1]

Lookin goooooood, Wes!

[Hokie_YJ]

Looking good Wes, sorry I didn't make it down anymore this week. I've been feelijng pretty crappy since Tuesday night. I'm feeling better now though, you gonna be working on it tomorrow?

[BroncoMike]

Dang Wes as I have said before....You got some mad skiwls man! Keep up the good work and pics coming...

[Jeepguy16]

any teaser pics of it on axles and tires coming?.... :grin:
looks good

[Jeep07]

any teaser pics of it on axles and tires coming?.... :grin:
looks good

Hopefully tomorrow :/ I spent all day on the axles...

I know now why god gave me the chassis. It was to teach me patience, because dealing with Toyota axles is truly an annoying task. I had been dreading it for weeks and today showed me why. I should have just bought Georges portals and built a crazy buggy.

[Jeep07]

Looking good Wes, sorry I didn't make it down anymore this week. I've been feelijng pretty crappy since Tuesday night. I'm feeling better now though, you gonna be working on it tomorrow?

Yup working tomorrow. Anybody feel free to come on by and pickup a wrench :) I would love to get this thing back together so I can start cutting and notching some tube for the frame tie in spots etc.

[Jeep07]

This entry has several days of updates but it ends with a bang. The frame is right side up, springs are installed, motor trans and tcase are installed. Axles are under the rig with a fresh rebuild :) and I put the 35's on it for now.




Cut some plates with the plasma for new homemade motor mounts. (yes solid for now. If it causes issues I will put a rubber bushing between the mount and the motor.)


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Welded up.


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Motor Mounts installed.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2010%202008/Ftoy_510_080110_016.JPG


Transmission mounted again.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2010%202008/Ftoy_510_080110_022.JPG


Front axle built up :) This took much longer than I expected.




Specs are

Trail-gear gusset
BTF cover
Trail-gear inspection kit
Trail-gear High-Steer
Trail-gear Hydro Assist
Aussie Locker
4.56 Gears
Rock rings
Back plate Eliminators
Solid Stock steering stops.
Longfield Super 30's

Trail-gear drive flanges.



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Rear Axle Specs

Poly Performance Chromo shafts
Home maid Disc brake conversion
Chevy 1500 Rotors I turned out on the lathe
Malibu calipers
Aussie Locker
4.56 Gears
BTF diff cover
Trail-gear traction bar bracket

New spring perches
Trail-gear inspection kit.



Trail-gear inspection cover on the rear axle.


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Spring perches welded on.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2010%202008/Ftoy_510_080110_005.JPG


Gonna cut some solid mounts to hold some Shackles on the axle for the winches to pull on.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2010%202008/Ftoy_510_080110_029.JPG



One of these got welded to the top of the diff on the rear axle. The other will go somewhere on the front axle once I figure out where the axle sits versus the steering and the winch.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2010%202008/Ftoy_510_080110_006.JPG








Springs installed. These are Trail-gear 5" springs with 2 springs from each pack removed per trail-gears instructions.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2010%202008/Ftoy_510_080110_010.JPG


Front axle going under it. (heavy little buggers all built up.)


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Testing the fit. I had to clearance the BTF cover a tad more for the Ubolt to line up with the plate.


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I have some front pinion angle work to do. Sits at 12* right now. I have some 7* steel shims that I'm gonna throw on to see how that helps. Right now I would be binding yokes like crazy I think.


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Rear axle going under. (Still needs paint)


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Top view. I grabbed a shock to see how I'm gonna mount it :) Probably will mount it on the leaf spring plate to the rear seat tube.



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Rear Disk brakes


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Tires installed and its sitting on its own!


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Front Approach angle with 35's. The 37's should make it better.



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That's it for now. These springs are gonna be very flexy I think. I could easily get the front and rear to move down several inches with my 250lbs of weight.


I hope to keep building from the ground up by doing the traction bar (thinking slip joint), shocks, bump stops and tie in the chassis for good next. I have a full day Saturday and a lot of time Sunday so maybe I can get most of that done by this weekend.

Also Bill, Ben and George came by on Saturday and helped out a lot. Thx guys.


Thanks for looking.

[SamuraiGuyTN]

your making some good progress. Awesome Job. I know I am glad I didn't win that thing. I don't have the skills yet to that kinda work. I will suggest though going back and adding rubber bushings to your engine mounts. with all the Vibes and torque I would think something would give. Probably the Block.

[BillM]

Got quite a bit more done since Saturday Wes. Good job.

[Jeep07]

with all the Vibes and torque I would think something would give. Probably the Block.

I'm pretty sure FSBS's buggy ran solid mounts with no issues. The 22r on pane is a pretty smooth motor and the after market mounts I looked at are solid mounts too. If it becomes an issue I will def add them though.

[pplblazerdude]

with all the Vibes and torque I would think something would give. Probably the Block.

I'm pretty sure FSBS's buggy ran solid mounts with no issues. The 22r on pane is a pretty smooth motor and the after market mounts I looked at are solid mounts too. If it becomes an issue I will def add them though. The only problem with the way you have it set up is the tranny and transmission are mounted with a bushing. From what I heard noticed read and all that good stuff its fine to solid mount a motor but if you do you must solid mount the tranny and transfer case because when the have bushing and the motor dose not the will move but the motor cant so something will have to give.

[SamuraiGuyTN]

that makes since. I can't wait to see it done. Hey Wes did you get the biefed up Studs for your High steer arms? Want2wheel had stock ones on his and ended up busting some of them.

[Jeep07]

that makes since. I can't wait to see it done. Hey Wes did you get the biefed up Studs for your High steer arms? Want2wheel had stock ones on his and ended up busting some of them.

Gotta order them and put them in.

[Jeep07]

with all the Vibes and torque I would think something would give. Probably the Block.

I'm pretty sure FSBS's buggy ran solid mounts with no issues. The 22r on pane is a pretty smooth motor and the after market mounts I looked at are solid mounts too. If it becomes an issue I will def add them though. The only problem with the way you have it set up is the tranny and transmission are mounted with a bushing. From what I heard noticed read and all that good stuff its fine to solid mount a motor but if you do you must solid mount the tranny and transfer case because when the have bushing and the motor dose not the will move but the motor cant so something will have to give.

Im looking at replacing the bushings with some lexan based bushings that are stiffer. If it becomes and issue I will do alumn bushings. Right now I'm running poly and not rubber which is a little firmer.

[BroncoMike]

Awesome Wes!!!

You need to open up shop man! :wink:

[Jeep07]

Awesome Wes!!!


Thanks for the compliments



You need to open up shop man! :wink:

Never.. This line of work is too hard for me :lol: I like driving a desk during the day :wink:

[BroncoMike]

Never.. This line of work is too hard for me :lol: I like driving a desk during the day :wink:

:lol: :lol: For hard work you make'n it look easy!

[Dino1967]

looking awsome 8)

[Hokie_YJ]

I'd lay down a good bet, that you're not gonna have any problems from those motor mounts.

[r1ng3l78]

i ran into the solid/soft mount problem on my jeep but the way you mount your tranny should be just fine with solid motor mounts since the mount is so wide it'll resist movement alot. and your dealing with less torque than a 4.2 as well (not starting a brand war).

[MudHunter]

The Build is looking Great! Keep the pics coming...

[humblelife]

I like that front steer axle, nice fab work to add strength. Are all straight axle toytas closed knuckle like that one? that axle looks like the front axle on my tractor.

[Hokie_YJ]

What's the caster at on your front axle? It looks like the pinion is pointing at the ground. :lol: It looks like you definitely will need to do something. Shims, shorter shackles, lower the front spring hanger, or cut the perches off and rotate the axle and re-weld. Otherwise the steering will be all sorts of screwy.

[Jeep07]

What's the caster at on your front axle? It looks like the pinion is pointing at the ground. :lol: It looks like you definitely will need to do something. Shims, shorter shackles, lower the front spring hanger, or cut the perches off and rotate the axle and re-weld. Otherwise the steering will be all sorts of screwy.

About halfway through the post above the image of the axle I wrote:

I have some front pinion angle work to do. Sits at 12* right now. I have some 7* steel shims that I'm gonna throw on to see how that helps. Right now I would be binding yokes like crazy I think.

http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2010%202008/Ftoy_510_080110_020.JPG


I will be doing that tomorrow as well as some more stuff on the rear axle for strength.

[Jeep07]

I like that front steer axle, nice fab work to add strength. Are all straight axle toytas closed knuckle like that one? that axle looks like the front axle on my tractor.

Yup all toyota front axles are like that.

[Hokie_YJ]

:lol: I don't read well..... I've got a set of shims if you need them, i think they're 7* too though.

[Jeep07]

:lol: I don't read well..... I've got a set of shims if you need them, i think they're 7* too though.

If my 7* shims wont work I'm cutting and rotating.

[Hokie_YJ]

Cool. Yell at me if you need a hand. I'll be gone all day tomorrow, but I should be around on Sunday.

[Gordon]

Wes, lookin' great. I sure wish I had a fraction of your fab skills.

[Jeep07]

I built a gusset for the rear axle similar to Hobies on the #10 rig. I had to do it along the back of the axle because the has the inspection port on it and the track bar mount. I had to do the gusset east coast style using some nice diamond plate :).

Took some spare plate from the skid plate to use for the rear lower shock tabs. (I hate to throw steel away so I use as much scrap as I can.)


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2012%202008/Ftoy_510_080112_002.JPG


Tabs cut out for lowers.


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Rear axle before any more work.


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Here is the material I decided to use for the rear gussets. I chose it because its diamond plate just so I would have some East Coast Ftoy style on the rig)


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2012%202008/Ftoy_510_080112_005.JPG



Cut away from the C Channel. I cut 4 4.5" sections out of this using the plasma.


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C-Channel left over I will use for another project.


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One rear gusset plate cut.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2012%202008/Ftoy_510_080112_008.JPG


Built the rear step... errr gusset. Its 3/16" Diamond plate and some 1.5" sq tubing.


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Put some 7* shims on the front axle and it straightened up the diff. Needs a High Pinion third



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Here are those shock tabs I made. More on those later.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2012%202008/Ftoy_510_080112_001.JPG


What it looks like after today. (no noticeable difference)


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Rear axle hangin out back. To bad Ftoys aren't linked buggies because I like the look of this departure angle.


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Thats it for today.





Thanks for Looking..

[Jeep07]

Wes, lookin' great. I sure wish I had a fraction of your fab skills.

Thanks Gordon. My work is 10+ ft quality (notice I take the pics 10 ft away :lol: :lol: :lol: ). Dads work is more like 1 ft quality :grin: .

I will admit this buggy is pretty fun to build.

[Dino1967]

I will admit this buggy is pretty fun to build.
its better when you have fun not as much of a headache then :wink:

[BroncoMike]

Wes, lookin' great. I sure wish I had a fraction of your fab skills.

Thanks Gordon. My work is 10+ ft quality (notice I take the pics 10 ft away :lol: :lol: :lol: ). Dads work is more like 1 ft quality :grin: .

I will admit this buggy is pretty fun to build.

I agree with Gordon.

Don't care if it's 10+ft or one...when you get it done and it's on the trail I know you'll feel a great high because you built it from the ground up!!!

[SamuraiGuyTN]

Man I know what you mean about 4 linking it. I think it would look good like that too. to bad you can't do that. Through on some air shocks.......

SO maybe when your done with the competitive stuff you can turn around and do links. Well actually you could go ahead and through them on. You just can't compete in that one class.

[Dino1967]

can you make it so you can do both just swap it out
springs for compitention and links for the serious stuff
would be alot of fabrication but you have the skills to do it :wink:

[MudHunter]

Thanks Gordon. My work is 10+ ft quality (notice I take the pics 10 ft away :lol: :lol: :lol: ). Dads work is more like 1 ft quality :grin: .

I will admit this buggy is pretty fun to build.

This is a great build to me because you and your dad are working on it together. Brings back memories for me of my father. ENJOY EVERY MINUTE OF IT.

[Jeep07]

I bent two full hoops. One for the front and one for the rear. Well, I designed them to small so the one for the rear was perfect for the front and the one for the front got cut in half to become shock hoops. I also built a gusset for the track bar mount out of some plate.

Shock tabs welded to rear spring plate.


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Setting up the bender.


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Bending what I thought was going to be the front grill hoop... Ended up being to small so it turned into shock mounts for the front.


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Bendtech instructions from the hoop I designed real quick.


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Setting up to bend the other hoop.


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Little trick to get the front end coming back around to slid down with the back end of the tube. Otherwise it will hit the top of the tube and bind.



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Small hoop in place.. Just doesn't look right.


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Big Hoop on.. Looks alot better. Now to align in.


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Welded on. I made sure and put the steering box back on to make sure it would clear.


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Rear axle back under the rig. Needs some paint but I've got to put a hole through the bracing for the trackbar mount for the brake lines to go though.


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Rear view of axle


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Shock mounts in place.


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Front view of axle


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Winch cable going to front axle. It seems to clear all the steering ok. The cable will be replaced with synthetic line.


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Front shock hoops..



http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2013%202008/Ftoy_510_080113_016.JPG


Another view.


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After I finished up.


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I'm gonna do some designs and see how I want to tie the rear of the chassis in. Maybe another hoop to match the front. Also gotta do some more shock tabs for the front. The rear shocks will tie into the seat bar.


Thanks for looking.

[Jeep07]

I got a 1700lb winch from TSC tonight and built a cross member with some scab plates on the ends to mount in the rear of the frame above the axle. I cut some 1/4" plate and drilled holes to match the pattern for the winch and welded it to the cross member. Then I started on the rear hoop to tie the chassis into the frame on the back. Made the rear hoop 41" outside to outside and then I made some 1" tall supports to make up the space at to bottom. Then I welded it in as well as finished welding the rear cross member in on the topside.

1700 lbs warn utility winch.


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Took these and cut them in half for the scab plates.


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Winch cross member with plate welded on.


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As you can see the scab plates are welded on the ends.


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Another view.


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Another.



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Winch fits.


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Winch cross member welded in.


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winch on the crossmember hooked to rear axle.


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I hooked a battery charger to the winch and did a test pull with it and it pulled the rear axle down very well.


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Rear hoop ready to weld together. Bendtech makes things line up perfect.. I had zero tube waste.


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Full view of rear hoop.


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Notched some scrap tubbing from the smaller front hoop i cut up yesterday for the front shock mounts.


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Then cut them down to 1"


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Attached the rear hoop.



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Thats it for tonight.. I'm pretty happy with the look of it and think with round lights and sheet metal in the rear it will look good.


Next is finish the upper mounts for the shocks Front and Rear, build the traction bar and tap the steering box for the hydro assist, maybe Wednesday I will get that done.


Thanks for looking.

[BillM]

Looking better everyday Wes.

[Dino1967]

=D> =D> makes me want one just watching you build this toy :!:

[BlueCrawler]

Man that thing is looking awsome :!: :shock:

[muddybuddy]

keep up the great work looks awesome :smokin:

[Landyota]

DAD IS PROUD !!!!! LOOKS GOOD.

[Jeep07]

I've got some updates but haven't had time to do them. However I did get a pic of this little charm today :)

http://lh6.google.com/lucentglow/R5TroVZUvwI/AAAAAAAAFPw/hyBEZjr9dFE/s800/F-Toy%20custom%20dual%20winch.JPG

[TiredIronGRB]

Nice...very nice 8)

[BlueCrawler]

Very nice! Where did you get that at?

[Jeep07]

Very nice! Where did you get that at?

12voltguy.com

[BlueCrawler]

What panel is it? I looked through and didnt see it. Is it a custom panel?

[Jeep07]

What panel is it? I looked through and didnt see it. Is it a custom panel?

Custom.

He will put whatever on the panel.

[BlueCrawler]

Thanks I will give him a call

[Hadfield4WD]

That is real nice. Just for fun I would get one that said "Eject".

[Gubni]

That is real nice. Just for fun I would get one that said "Eject".

And then hook that up to NOS.

[TiredIronGRB]

That is real nice. Just for fun I would get one that said "Eject".

Or "Sky Hook"

[Hokie_YJ]

I have an empty switch on my panel, I was about to have him put eject on it.

[sparkn89]

I like, I wanted to build a f toy rig. This one is sweet.

[Jeep07]

Saturday James came to the house and welded the rings on the wheels. I spent the day welding the chassis into the frame in several spots. I also redid the track-bar and put a mount on the skid plate for the shackle.




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Thanks for looking.

[Hokie_YJ]

Looking good!

[TNRanger]

got them rear shock hoops bent up as well I see!! Good stuff Wesley. Wish I was there helpin :x

[amgraham]

Are those Pitbulls? The rig is looking great!

[Jeep07]

Are those Pitbulls? The rig is looking great!


yup pit bulls.

[BillM]

I like it Wes. Not too much longer to go.

[Dino1967]

:smokin: very nice :!:

[Jeep07]

Saturday I ran the brake lines down the passenger side and drilled and tapped the bolt holes in the frame that hold the lines in place. Then I tore the steering box down for the drill/tap process. Sunday I started working on the mounts for the propane tanks. I wanted some cargo area in the back and wanted to keep the rear seat area open for some seats. I also wanted it to be pretty easy for myself to change out the tanks without having to lean my back over the side and lift the tank straight over the side bars, so the result I came up with seems to accomplish all those goals.

New propane Tank.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2027%202008/Ftoy_510_080127_001.JPG


Setup the steering box on the drill press.


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Top channel drilled and tapped


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Side drilled and tapped. I had to do this side instead of the "A" because that fitting on the front would've been in danger of being hit by rocks or trees etc since it was right out front.


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Brake lines ran across the front of the firewall.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2027%202008/Ftoy_510_080127_005.JPG


Here is my solution for mounting the tanks. The tank will simply sit in the two rails and have a set of straps to hold it in place.



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Almost matches the lines of the chassis :)


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[Jeep07]

Tank mounted. It goes to far down into the rear hoop.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Jan%2027%202008/Ftoy_510_080127_010.JPG


So I had to make a bottom point to stop it.


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Bottom stop in detail here.


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Did the job.



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Here I put some 1" sq tubing across the back to support the rear flooring and add some strength to the rear winch mount. 2 birds 1 stone type of deal.


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How the rig looked after this weekend.


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[Jeep07]

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Incomplete Todo list:



Install my proportioning valve

Run a line for the propane tank from the rear to the front.

Clevis mount for a D-Ring for the rear winch.

Mount battery box

Flooring

Cut the belly skid a little for the traction bar

Seat belt attachment points

Firewall sheet metal

Propane to 22r adapter plate

Gas pedal mount

Dash with new panels

Wiring

Buy some brake lights and head lights.

Install ARP studs when they get here from FROR.

Build front and rear drive shafts.

Fluids and grease

Adjust the front low range box so it doesn't interfere with the trans shifter.

Paint it.

Bold all the misc stuff on.

Figure out how to start it




Wow big list but nothing compared to what it was just a month ago. :)


Thanks for looking

[Jeep07]

A lot of work has been done but very few things really stand out as large achievements. I've plumbed the rig and welded on about every bracket I can think of. I did a lot of running around digging up the parts for the propane etc. I got the battery box welded in and acquired about everything for the electrical. After I had everything welded on the frame and installed to make sure it fit I unbolted everything and painted the rig with Hammered Silver. After that I started the bolt on process. I had to make a few trips to the exhaust shop getting a muffler and some tubing I could bend to make the exhaust fit. I also welded the front top shock mounts on and setup the bump stops for the rear. I have around 5" of up-travel on all 4 corners. I also installed the proportioning valve for the rear discs and the line lock on the front so I can do rear burns. I also installed some ARP knuckle studs on Tuesday night. Today James came over and started cleaning up the motor and removing all the unnecessary junk.

Here are the pics.


Driveshafts built...


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Building front winch pivot point bar that will be used so the front winch can suck down the front axle.


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Tabs for panels welded on



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Tcase removed so 4.7's and twin sticks can be installed.


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Dash panel cut


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Feb%2028%202008/Ftoy_510_080228_032.JPG



Rear expanded deck installed


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Feb%2028%202008/Ftoy_510_080228_033.JPG


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[Jeep07]

Starting exhaust.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Feb%2028%202008/Ftoy_510_080228_034.JPG



Had to bend these 1.75" x 16ga tubes to go under the xmember but stay above the belly skid. Luckily I had the die for my bender :)


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Feb%2028%202008/Ftoy_510_080228_035.JPG


The muffler is going to move out of this spot and in front of the expanded so my shocks have more clearance. (I think)


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A shot after the paint.


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[Jeep07]

Some homemade diff breathers like the ones TG sales (I actually got the stuff for these like 2 days before TG started selling theirs :) ) Dino1967 gave me the idea. The breathers are from the suzuki shop and the rest is 1/4 NPT with a barb'd fitting.


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Tcase installed with MC twin sticks and MC 4.7 gears.


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Some block offs James did tonight.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Feb%2028%202008/Ftoy_510_080228_007.JPG


Proprtioning valve


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Feb%2028%202008/Ftoy_510_080228_008.JPG


More blockoffs. Much cleaner :)



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Chevy V8 fuel pump block off plate fit the toyota one really good. Thanks for the tip BJack.


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Front shock.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Feb%2028%202008/Ftoy_510_080228_011.JPG


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[Jeep07]

Dash panel with 12v guy panel and summit digital guages.


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Rear bump stops.


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Seat belt brackets with 1/2 bolt and a pin drilled through them.



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Twin sticks again :)


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I wire brushed the alum dash and wire panel.


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Fuse panel under the dash.


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[Jeep07]

Wiring in the back.


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Propane hoses. Just the vacumm line left to hookup.


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Expanded on the roof. I've got a softtop for the rainy days.


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Latest photos....


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Welp that's it. I plan on working sat/sun and hoping it fires up and I can drive it. The list is getting much smaller.


Thanks for looking..

[Jeep07]

I fixed the water leak, Setup the air cleaner, installed the winch, installed an overflow tank for the radiator and made some brackets for the front lights. Almost there.

New bolt in the Intake manifold

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It can breathe clean air.

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Winch Box mounted on the side.

http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%206%202008/Ftoy_510_080306_004.JPG


Electrical connectors for the winch.

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Eye balls.

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As it sat last night.

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Tonight James is coming over to finish the wiring.
I have to build some brackets to hold the rear lights.
Bleed the brakes
Bleed the clutch
Bleed the steering
Adjust timing and check all the fluids like engine etc.
Install and wire the CB and put the floor boards in and install the seats.

Almost ready for a test drive :)

[Jeep07]

Thanks for all the compliments everybody. This has been a journey thats for sure. Welp another update.

Last night I did some tail light mounts and worked with James on the wiring. Also mounted the CB and the cheapo drivers seat (Will be the first thing replaced). The driveshaft bolts are all mounted and tightened up as well.

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Powered Up.
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Tail lights :)
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More tank straps.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%207%202008/Ftoy_510_080307_007.JPG

Next post...

[Jeep07]

CB Up top.
http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%207%202008/Ftoy_510_080307_008.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%207%202008/Ftoy_510_080307_009.JPG


Antenna
http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%207%202008/Ftoy_510_080307_010.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%207%202008/Ftoy_510_080307_011.JPG



Tonight we bleed brakes, steering and clutch.
Setup the timing on the motor
Wire up the Alternator
Wire up the rear winch And Finally..................................... Drive it



Thanks for looking

[Jeep07]

can you do a close up pic of your pedal mounts im builing a formula four style buggy for trails hope to see you guys in Harlan

http://lh4.google.com/lucentglow/R9S9plOdBsI/AAAAAAAAFac/zKpOcX2Cq0w/s800/DSCF4303.JPG
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[Jeep07]

Dad and I did a little riding on the farm today to test the rigs. There was on old logging road that has about 15 years of growth on it. That didn't stop us, we just did some trail blazing opening the trail back up. Anyway the Ftoy ran pretty good and had some idling issues over time. As the engine would warm up the idle would advance quite a bit so I have some issues to work out there. The suspension did really well but I do have a few adjustments to make. The rear shocks need to be moved up some to allow for a tad more up-travel so the bump stops can do their job. Anyway the ride went well but dad did take a little sheet metal damage.

Loaded up ready to go.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%209%202008/Ftoy_510_080309_003.JPG


unloading at the farm


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%209%202008/Ftoy_510_080309_004.JPG


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Dads damage after riding.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%209%202008/Ftoy_510_080309_002.JPG


Lower bar is missing some paint :) So is the upper.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%209%202008/Ftoy_510_080309_008.JPG


Ftoy looks small next to dads ride.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%209%202008/Ftoy_510_080309_009.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%209%202008/Ftoy_510_080309_001.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%209%202008/Ftoy_510_080309_011.JPG


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Mar%209%202008/Ftoy_510_080309_012.JPG

Overall a good day of wheeling..

[Jeep07]

I started on the firewall tonight :) Trying to get comp ready for jellico. I hope to finish it up tomorrow night then this weekend I will fab up the motor cover is my 1.5" die gets here in time.

I noticed this build thread doesn't have any pics with the side panels installed. Here is the latest I have on guardrail at Tellico 2 weekends ago.

http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/trail%20rides/06092008/DSC05391.JPG

[Jeep07]

Just and update on the rig.

The rear winch bar has help up well to the use and hasn't bent or acted like it was going to. Just an FYI.

The rig has had a few issues with clearance in the rear. The brake line coming down the the T was mounted at the top of the traction bar bracket and the suspension can compress so much in the rear that it hit the winch mount bar and pinched the steel braided line and cut it open. :eek: Also compressed the rear suspension up so much that it hit the muffler and jamed it up giving it some more clearance :smokin: .

On the front I had clearance issues with the winch cable bar that goes under the motor for the winch line to pivot on to suck the front axle up and the hydro assist ram. When the suspension compressed the fittings on the top of the steering ram would hit that bar. Resolved the problem by adding a little more bump stop and rotating the ram forward and using the Jam nuts to hold it there.

I am getting ready to get into a small phase 2 build. I'm adding suspension seats and going from 37's to 40's for tire size. Also putting on 6 shooter knuckles and going to add a new clutch, some Marlin HD axles seals and internal beadlocks. One day I will go for HP front 3rd and ARB's but not yet.

Just figured I would update this with stuff that changed or didn't work for those building there rigs.

[Jeep07]

Well I've decided to make a few changes. I've been disappointed with the 22r from day 1. It just doesn't have the torque I want for the wet weather wheeling and muddy hill climbs. So I'm dropping in a 4.3 and a th350 trans mated to the Toy cases.


I've also done some calc work to help me figure out what gear options I have until I get the swap done. I often find myself having trouble finding the right ratio for hard launches and hill climbs because I need to gain wheel speed and keep momentum but sometimes the motor will start to loose RPM when the tires heat up and start to grip because of the lack of torque and then it will bog down and I'm done. So here is a small chart.


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Nov%204th%202008/Ftoy%20Drive%20Ratio%20Toy%20Trans%20High%20To%20L ow.JPG

[SamuraiGuyTN]

So now its not gonna be able to compete in the FTOY class huh. well guess that means you can link it..... or do some other cool stuff to it...Dana 60's maybe...

[Jeep07]

So now its not gonna be able to compete in the FTOY class huh. well guess that means you can link it..... or do some other cool stuff to it...Dana 60's maybe...

Done with WeRock Comps. Local stuff maybe. These toy axles are built with all chromo so I will run them until they become problematic. I'd say I will keep the leafs for a while. I contemplated building a new buggy but there is no way I will have the time. My only complaint has been the torque anyway and this will fix that.

[Jeep07]

Welp a little change of plans on the motor swap. I Went to Maryville today and picked up a 70% of a buggy that has a 22RE on propane with a super charger on it. The supercharger is a camden unit that bolts to the side of the intake manifold. The motor also has an upgraded exhaust manifold on it. It has a billet head with a 261 Crawler Cam and oversized valves as well. Overall there is a good chance this motor puts out about 200hp which will be a big step up from my previous 22r's that are lucky to get 90 hp on there best day. Also this unit is setup to run on propane which is even better :)


http://www.wesleycombs.com/Portals/0/Blog/Ftoy/Nov%2029%202008/SuperCharged22re.jpg


Now I just gotta get this in the buggy :).

The 4.3 and T350 will have a new buggy to call home next year ;)

[TiredIronGRB]

Sweet!

[Hadfield4WD]

Nice.

[Horton]

Awsome!...if you need any help just give me a ring

[HANO]

:toothy9: Let's get it going

[Horton]

Man the axles under that buggy you got are HUGE!!!...what are they 2ton....LOL!!

[96 coutry cherokee]

nice upgrade!!!!

[Dino1967]

that thing will scoot now!!

[Jeep07]

Man the axles under that buggy you got are HUGE!!!...what are they 2ton....LOL!!

Yup those bad boys came in real handy..

I spent some time tonight draining the current motor and disconnecting the majority of the hoses and wiring to get it ready to pull.

After some measuring I'm gonna have to redo some stuff on the front end to get the motor to fit. Since the new motor has the SC on it it has an extra sheave on the crank which will hit the radiator in its current location. So now I'm gonna have to move the radiator and All this moving will require a little reworking on my winch. After that I have to redo some exhaust since the new header goes into a 4-1 collector instead of the stock setup. That mod requires a little clearance work on the Tcase xmember so a 2" exhaust can fit between it and the flat belly. :/

No matter how easy a swap should be I don't think it's ever cut and dry.

I did notice a few things about the new motor. It has a GM 1 wire alt on it and a newer PS pump :) The new PS pump does have different fittings though so I've got a little work to do there as well.

Not sure how long this will take but I should be able to pull the motor next time I'm down there to work on it.

[Horton]

Any progress dude?

[Jeep07]

Progress?.. yeah my cold seems to be going away :) so atleast I've made progress there.. I did walk by it in the garage tonight though.. Maybe one night this week I can finish getting the motors pulled and start working on putting the new one in.

I have been figuring out what hydraulic fittings I need since the new motor had a new PSC pump on it and it has different fittings.

[Jeep07]

Got the motor pulled out tonight and almost got the new motor pulled out of the other buggy. Anybody know how to get grime off the motor and make it look like new? I thought about taking it to center machine shop to see if they could do it.

[Hokie_YJ]

Soak it down with oven cleaner, then pressure wash it. It actually works pretty good.

[96 coutry cherokee]

or you can use purple power it does great on grease

[TiredIronGRB]

Easy-Off oven cleaner is the bomb.

[Horton]

Wes i will bring you a bottle of the good stuff we use tomorrow

[99NCXJ]

Dry ice blast it.

oven cleaner would be way cheaper though.

[SamuraiGuyTN]

nah just paint over it, you'll never notice the grime.

[Jeep07]

ok both motors are out... new motor has a nice center force dual friction clutch and a nice center force pressure plate.. I hope to get some fittings for power steering lined up tomorrow .. Next big hurdle is exhaust, since this on has a nice manifold on it, it requires some custom fab.. 1/2 tempted yo take it too a shop for that and make them deal with it.

[Hokie_YJ]

Yeah I'd just take it to Jeff's and be done with it.

[HANO]

I don't know who Jeff is, but I'd agree on an exhaust shop. Those guys can do it in less than half the time and make it look good while doing it....! It's ok Wes, you don't have to fab EVERYTHING.....we won't judge you...!

[Hokie_YJ]

Jeff's = Jeff's Pipe & Muffler :icon_lol: It's one of the local muffler shops, they do really good work.

[Jeep07]

Def not into fabbing everything but it usually just turn out that way :/ .. I'm thinking of just venting the exhaust below the drivers seat and out the belly pan so I can have a 2" pipe all the way out. Right now my rear muffler is getting crunched up by the axle when it flexes all the way up anyway.. And the donor rig has a 2" piped exhaust with a glass pack on it. I figure I just get a 2" down pipe and cut a hole in the belly pan and vent the exhaust that way. Thats the easiest way if I DIYit and probably the fastest way to accomplish things. My drawbacks are the exhaust itself... If I do this am I gonna have to deal with the fumes? The propane burns clean and I can't remember it being a problem..

[Hokie_YJ]

I wouldn't think it'd be a problem, it's an open rig anyway.

[HANO]

I have a turndown just behind my transfercase skidplate (ends right underneath the passenger seat), and I haven't been fumed yet.... Maybe I should ask my wife lol..

[Jeep07]

I have a turndown just behind my transfercase skidplate (ends right underneath the passenger seat), and I haven't been fumed yet.... Maybe I should ask my wife lol..

Yeah if she's not complaining and your running pump gas then I should have no probs :).

[TNRanger]

Mine dumps just behind the pass seat as well. I don't have any problems.... or a floorboard.

[SamuraiGuyTN]

gaoh my sami always stunk no matter where the exhaust came from.

[Jeep07]

gaoh my sami always stunk no matter where the exhaust came from.
You will like the new fuel injection system your getting then :).

[Hokie_YJ]

gaoh my sami always stunk no matter where the exhaust came from.

That's because oil stinks when it burns... :icon_mrgreen:

[Marty G]

gaoh my sami always stunk no matter where the exhaust came from.

:icon_mrgreen: rice dose have a funny smell when it burns :icon_mrgreen:

but now your cooking with gas :kewl:


cant wait to hear this engine its going to be cool Wes

[Jeep07]

Quick update.

After reading the shackle angle thread on pirate I decided that I needed to make a change. I've also noticed that my rear shackle bushings are shot after 1 year so I ordered some new shackle mounts from TG and plan on doing like Kevin/ski4x4 on PBB (RIP) did and move the mounts back off the rear xmember to get a better angle.

here are the mounts i ordered.

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/2008-1590b-600.jpg

I've thought about just using some 2" Sq stock to get them moved back further. If that's not far enough I will design some other mount to get the shackle angle corrected. This should also lift the back up a little which will help because the rear sits lower than the front.

[Jeep07]

Belly pan is off and old exhaust is out. Motor is hanging above the engine bay waiting on me to cut the hood bar on the passenger side because the intake is not going to fit with that in there. Might also have to mod the shock mount.

I'm having to go at this 1-2 hours out a time so it's taking a while. Normally this would be sub 2 days even with the modifications to the chassis, exhaust and the cooling system.

Maybe I can get 1/2 day off work tomorrow and get the motor sitting in the engine bay and be ready to start the rework on the rest of the stuff sat..

1 Step at a time nowadays. Building this thing was a different story..

[Jeep07]

Woohoo it fired up tonight! Temps look good and so does Voltage.. I think my Oil Pressure receiver went bad so I'm gonna have to replace that. I had a really hard time getting it to start and it was 1st due to fuel then spark became an issue. The Larger Coil requires a solid 12+V and last night my battery drained last night.. So tonight I could get the motor to turn over but not actually attempt to really crank. So I put the charger on 10 and went to eat dinner hoping that was the problem. Come back with a good 13v on the meter so I fire her up.

Buggy is loud with an open header right now so I'm hoping the exhaust shop will be open tom morning. If not I will try to fab something up.

[HANO]

Man your really moving along! Keep at it.

[Horton]

YEAH!!!...I cant wait to here that supercharger whistling up a trail

[Jeep07]

Well at 10:00 pm the newest exhaust shop was still open so I've got that done ;), they keep pretty convenient hours but are lacking in the material department so if you don't bring it they can't do it.:icon_lol:

I cleaned up the wiring mess I created earlier and put my wheel spacers back on the rear. Also cleaned up all the tools, got the throttle linkage connected and reinstalled the skid and traction bar.

I plan on taking it to the farm tomorrow for some test riding to see how things go. I still need a way to measure oil pressure so I might pickup a manual gauge tomorrow at advance and I have a protective hood bar I need to add so I don't rip the propane carb off.

[Hokie_YJ]

So that means your coming this weekend, RIGHT? :icon_lol:

[Jeep07]

yup i do believe so. :icon_mrgreen:

[Hokie_YJ]

:eusa_clap: I knew you could pull it off.

[Johnny Sherman]

Wes and his dad is going to meet us @ F.C. around 7:30

[Jeep07]

Well I took the buggy out today for it's initial run and man did this motor wake it up. I had a great day of riding except for the stupid GM 1 Wire Alt. First off it has been draining by battery every night since I hooked it up so when I get into Harlan to unload the battery had a whopping 4.5v. So I roll the buggy off the trailer and dad gets the jumper cables. We let it charge for a while then get it to crank. The bigger coil requires a solid 12+v to give spark. Then I let the buggy run for a while and charge the motor and its putting out a good 13-14volts. Well about 1/2 way through the day I notice I'm running at 12.7-12.8 volts constant and I just assume the alt has cut off because the battery is charged but that was wrong of me to assume something. So I'm on top of the mountain in the upper rock garden and just make it over a huge rock and the buggy dies. The motor would turn over but not crank and when trying to crank the volt meter reads 11volts. We do a spark test on a plug wire and yup no spark http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif So after winching out (yeah the battery could run the winch fine but not the accel supercoil.) I throw a tow strap on it and dad pulls me down the mountain so we can load it on the trailer.

I've now moved the alt to the master switch so it can't drain the battery and I'm gonna go get the alt tested and replace it if needed or I might go back to a toyota alt..

On a good note the motor screams. We ran Lower Damnation and it hopped right up the obstacles with no problem and then we ran big perm which is a steep rocky hill climb with a large obstacle 1/2 way up and then the top is all black harlan county mud. The buggy rocked on big perm with the new motor. It's amazing at how fast the power comes on now. I was actually able to grab a gear in the climb and keep going which amazed me. So I'm not comp legal any more but It's well worth it to get the performance I'm looking for. I didn't feel like the motor was the part holding the buggy back now. I think I still have a little tuning to do on the motor as it wasn't running as smooth as I would like but overall it's a huge difference.

[Jeep07]

Mmmm Fun..

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_xdt4leV36Eo/SZA_04g_YbI/AAAAAAAAH88/i_uYD4eLHt0/s800/100_0825.JPG

[TiredIronGRB]

Is it a true "one wire" or do you have it wired that way?

[Jeep07]

Is it a true "one wire" or do you have it wired that way?
Oh I fixed all that. It wasn't a true one wire. I redid the wiring for a standard 3 wire Alt. It's a 100 amp Chevy 1Ton Van Alt. My Red Top battery was shot as well. So AdvanceAuto replaced it.

[TiredIronGRB]

Is the small wire connected to a switched power source?

[Jeep07]

Is the small wire connected to a switched power source?

Actually All wires are now on a switched power source. The main alt charger wire goes to the Master Switch and the voltage sensing wire and the ign wire go to the fuse block which are switched by the ignition switch.

[TiredIronGRB]

I always run the main post and the big wire on the two wire plug straight to the battery and then run the small wire to switched power.

[86rocktoy]

wes were was that pic taken at?

[Jeep07]

wes were was that pic taken at?
Your turn.

[Jeep07]

OK wow been 9 months since I've touched this thread... Might as well document what I did this summer etc.. Lets see, I wheeled it when I had time.. Pretty much made it all summer without breakage and then dad and I ran the race at Chinquipin.. After that I destroyed the rear carrier in Harlan.. It actually broke the carrier itself in half and pushed the ring gear over to 1 side. Thankfully during the summer I had been watching for a set of eLockers to put in the axles and picked them up. So over the past month I've been installing the eLockers as time permits. Also in the process of the summer Dad tuned the motor on the Ftoy and got it running much better.

So this weekend I hope to finish up the lockers and get the wiring done then its ready for a November run and probably hang out in the garage until next spring (unless is snows :) ).. Maybe I will install the rear seat and do some flooring work or something.

[Jeep07]

Wired up the locker panel last night. It consists of 2 Dual Poll/Dual Throw Momentary switches with a "Locked LED" for both. I cut the locker panel on the CNC table and it has a base it sits in that will be boxed on the back side and then welded to the steering column so the switches are within quick reach of the steering wheel. I still need to cut the rear panel and build a piece that will wrap the 2 pieces together, essentially boxing it in. The panel that actually holds the switches is removable so wiring issues can be addressed by pulling it out of the housing instead of laying on my back under the steering wheel trying to figure out whats going on.

All the wires are soldered together and heat shrink wrapped etc. I tried my best to build this correctly instead of shortcut it with but splices etc. The wire used is called quick cable and its a 10 conductor wire all in 1 nice shielding that you can get at bestbuy in the car audio install bay. It comes in 20' sections and each conductor is 18 gauge.

The letters aren't that clean but I didn't adjust the plasma settings for the thinner material so they aren't that clean on the corners and edges and I was running about 150 ipm which is pretty fast and kills accuracy on letters etc.


2133

2134

2135

Solidworks rendering.

2136

[Want2Wheel]

Perty.

[TiredIronGRB]

I wish I knew you needed that wire, I've got a bunch of it.

[Jeep07]

OK big thanks to Dad for regearing my rear third member. We had a heck of a time getting it setup. Also a thanks to Rob for giving me a carrier bearing off a v6 third he had.

I took the buggy to the farm today and wore it out trail blazing. I found the weak link of the electric eLocker and that's the wiring pigtails. Ripped one clean off the rear third member motor. So now I'm gonna pull that rear motor and rewire it with a more robust setup.

[Jeep07]

Did a little work on this rig. Rebuilt the PSPump so it doesn't leak anymore (yeah I'm Thinking green). Also put a new large reservoir on that holds 3x the fluid the stock one did.

I think my TRE's are going bad on the high steer kit so I will be getting some replacements this week.

[Jeep07]

Got some weights on the rig.


Zone Weight
Front 1554.96
Rear 1236.9
Total 2791.86


No driver and 1 tank of fuel.

[Jeep07]

Well I've let the buggy sit all summer and Fall in the rain.. The last trip I took it out I busted something quick and clean. From the symptoms I thought I had destroyed the Trans.. A month or so ago I pulled the trans and tcases out of the buggy and discovered the trans was in good shape and I had sheered the Input shaft on the rear Tcase. So I ordered a new Chromo Input from Marlin and a rebuilt kit. Rebuilt the Rear Tcase have been putting everything back together.

I've installed the Trans and Tcases and have them drained ready for new fluid.

I'm planning on making some modifications to the buggy so I'll list them out.

1. New Corbeau Baja SS seats. After sitting in the Sun all summer the cheaper seats have fallen apart. I look like I squished a smirf each time I get out of them because of all the blue dye that is on my pants.
2. Reworking Tcase Xmember for better exhaust clearance.
3. Exhaust and Muffler all the way out the back.
4. Rear Benchseat (A Baja SS 36" Bench)
5. New interior panels and a trans tunnel etc.

The seats should be here in a week or so and I still need to order my Metal Brake to do the sheet metal work inside. The exhaust will hopefully be done this next week.

[Gubni]

Glad to see you haven't given up on us.

[HANO]

Sweet!

[99NCXJ]

I was wondering what the loud bang was that rainy afternoon at Harlan. Glad you got it taken care of. Sad thing is I haven't used my jeep since that same ride.

[Jeep07]

Trans and Tcases are back in along with a modified crossmember. I cleaned the trailer off over the weekend and plan on taking the buggy to the exhaust shop tomorrow so they can do their work.

[muddinmatt]

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu240/mattman944/th_harlan6-1.jpg

Here is that meany hill :tongue3: